It would great to see Loyola or Lincoln way schedule East st.Louis for a non conference game im sure sunkett wouldn’t mind.
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Looks like both are looking for week 1 games. Would def be entertaining matchupsIt would great to see Loyola or Lincoln way schedule East st.Louis for a non conference game im sure sunkett wouldn’t mind
Been discussed many times please go read other threads.Does Illinois allow teams to play up a class by choice? I don't really get East St. Louis in 6A. A majority of 7A/8A teams couldn't have handled their OOC schedule. Seems like they'll take on all challengers in OOC play but settle for the easy hardware in the Tourney.
Ihsa does. Their conference only allows them to petition up one class however.Does Illinois allow teams to play up a class by choice? I don't really get East St. Louis in 6A. A majority of 7A/8A teams couldn't have handled their OOC schedule. Seems like they'll take on all challengers in OOC play but settle for the easy hardware in the Tourney.
My apologies. I'm really not thrilled to be THAT guy. I no longer live in the Chicago 'burbs and randomly glance at this board. I completely missed that discussion.Been discussed many times please go read other threads.
This is what the people wanna see !!!Looks like both are looking for week 1 games. Would def be entertaining matchups
I've always wondered, why does the conference care?Ihsa does. Their conference only allows them to petition up one class however.
According to what I’ve heard the conference wants to limit teams from the conference from knocking eachother in the playoffs.if east side was to move up they’d most likely eliminate one of its conference matesI've always wondered, why does the conference care?
Their conference teams don't go far anyways. It's such a loser mentality in that conference.According to what I’ve heard the conference wants to limit teams from the conference from knocking eachother in the playoffs.if east side was to move up they’d most likely eliminate one of its conference mates
As mentioned above, this issue has been covered in other threads and there's a bit more to it than that.Their conference teams don't go far anyways. It's such a loser mentality in that conference.
Correct and until MC petition to be 8A, I don’t want to hear anything about ESL petitioning higher! MC has more boys than ESL has students. Once MC petition for 8A, ESL will approach the conference about altering their rule. Until then, both will remain where they are!As mentioned above, this issue has been covered in other threads and there's a bit more to it than that.
Honestly it’s not a loser mentality, it’s the same as the CCL Blue. Until all those teams play in 8A, I don’t want to hear what another conference should do! Other conferences like winning in multiple classes just like the CCL.Their conference teams don't go far anyways. It's such a loser mentality in that conference.
Bingo I am sure FVC would not mind if PR or CG drops or move up and both would play for titles.Honestly it’s not a loser mentality, it’s the same as the CCL Blue. Until all those teams play in 8A, I don’t want to hear what another conference should do! Other conferences like winning in multiple classes just like the CCL.
Typically there is one or 2 people asking why certain schools don’t petition up. I personally miss seeing ESL in 7A because I thought it made it a better playoff, but I understand that they’re not able to do anything about it. Anyone who doesn’t understand why a school wouldn’t break from its conferences for the benefit of 1 sport is looking at this all wrong. As for the whole Blue playing 8A, I don’t think a school like SR belongs in 8A. MC & BR have been in 8A before and will at some point end up back there. LA always ends up in 8A. If the IHSA made 8A an open class for all to petition into, I would bet money ESL would opt in without hesitation. Where they sit isn’t their fault.Correct and until MC petition to be 8A, I don’t want to hear anything about ESL petitioning higher! MC has more boys than ESL has students. Once MC petition for 8A, ESL will approach the conference about altering their rule. Until then, both will remain where they are!
How does the IHSA figure enrollments? It shows BR as 2207.70. So I'm guessing .70 is a short kid? Or is taking that # and dividing by 1.65 and then divide by 2 give you the real # of students? Is their real enrollment 669? Where does the IHSA get it's numbers from?Typically there is one or 2 people asking why certain schools don’t petition up. I personally miss seeing ESL in 7A because I thought it made it a better playoff, but I understand that they’re not able to do anything about it. Anyone who doesn’t understand why a school wouldn’t break from its conferences for the benefit of 1 sport is looking at this all wrong. As for the whole Blue playing 8A, I don’t think a school like SR belongs in 8A. MC & BR have been in 8A before and will at some point end up back there. LA always ends up in 8A. If the IHSA made 8A an open class for all to petition into, I would bet money ESL would opt in without hesitation. Where they sit isn’t their fault.
Yes that is exactly how they get the football enrollment. For a single gender school like BR or MC they double the enrollment (so 669 would become 1338) and then multiply by 1.65 which would be 2207.7How does the IHSA figure enrollments? It shows BR as 2207.70. So I'm guessing .70 is a short kid? Or is taking that # and dividing by 1.65 and then divide by 2 give you the real # of students? Is their real enrollment 669? Where does the IHSA get it's numbers from?
Thank You! So 10 kids at an all boys school becomes 33?Yes that is exactly how they get the football enrollment. For a single gender school like BR or MC they double the enrollment (so 669 would become 1338) and then multiply by 1.65 which would be 2207.7
I thought BR was like 820?Thank You! So 10 kids at an all boys school becomes 33?
Anyone know how the IHSA gets the 669 number? Do the schools self report?
ESL has 1133. Assuming half are boys that gives you 566 boys at ESLCorrect and until MC petition to be 8A, I don’t want to hear anything about ESL petitioning higher! MC has more boys than ESL has students. Once MC petition for 8A, ESL will approach the conference about altering their rule. Until then, both will remain where they are!
No school in America has a ratio 1 to 1. It's more like 350 boys at ESL.ESL has 1133. Assuming half are boys that gives you 566 boys at ESL
Mt Carmel has 588 boys
IHSA Enrollment
LHST,In no school in America are the boys to girls ratio 1 to 1. At best, its a third so 350 boys which MC is almost double.
You are correct but nationally the ratio is for every 1000 girls there are 983 boys.In no school in America are the boys to girls ratio 1 to 1. At best, its a third so 350 boys which MC is almost double.
You're making the decision for them? Mr. Big Stuff.Correct and until MC petition to be 8A, I don’t want to hear anything about ESL petitioning higher! MC has more boys than ESL has students. Once MC petition for 8A, ESL will approach the conference about altering their rule. Until then, both will remain where they are!
Yes!You're making the decision for them? Mr. Big Stuff.
I know you don't like the CCL but I didn't know you were a Sox fan!Honestly it’s not a loser mentality, it’s the same as the CCL Blue. Until all those teams play in 8A, I don’t want to hear what another conference should do! Other conferences like winning in multiple classes just like the CCL.
I’m sure the fellas will love this!I know you don't like the CCL but I didn't know you were a Sox fan!
If one accounts for a higher dropout rate among male students, most likely In inner city or rural public schools I can see this great an imbalance being possible. I'd consider it much less likely in private snd suburban public schools.whete families are more likely to prize education and/or just the application and tuition act as signs of commitmentNo school in America has a ratio 1 to 1. It's more like 350 boys at ESL.
I just checked this website for ESLIf one accounts for a higher dropout rate among male students, most likely In inner city or rural public schools I can see this great an imbalance being possible. I'd consider it much less likely in private snd suburban public schools.whete families are more likely to prize education and/or just the application and tuition act as signs of commitment
This report isn’t accurate
He has alluded to working in the building. The IIRC is a nice resource for a lot of things, but it is not scripture. It's more of a snapshot of the building than a constant updateSo you're making it up. Not surprised
Not sure where this thread has gone but getting back to the original question…Lincoln-Way Central and EStl played a home and home sequence a number of years back. I am thinking about 2006-2007? Lincoln-Way East again, I believe was in the midst of converting to turf from grass about that time. Historians can clarify but I remember the coach bus arrival for a day before game at LWC. Should happen again but at East!It would great to see Loyola or Lincoln way schedule East st.Louis for a non conference game im sure sunkett wouldn’t mind.
Interesting. Precisely the opposite of what one would expect from an inner city minority district.
East had turf in 2005.Not sure where this thread has gone but getting back to the original question…Lincoln-Way Central and EStl played a home and home sequence a number of years back. I am thinking about 2006-2007? Lincoln-Way East again, I believe was in the midst of converting to turf from grass about that time. Historians can clarify but I remember the coach bus arrival for a day before game at LWC. Should happen again but at East!