LOL. Again, you're focusing too much on the number next to the team. WA got smoked and Loyola is still alive so who cares where they were ranked? The better team is still playing.
I honestly don’t even knew what you are talking about. The numbers are the seeds, so, yeah, they matter. Seedings are supposed to create easier paths for the better teams. If the numbers (yes the numbers, the seeds, whatever) are a bit of a crap shoot then we haven’t done that. I gave two teams only as an example of those numbers being wrong.
In the current system the seeds do not matter, which is why I say to not pay attention to the number (seed) next to the team. I agree, seeding is meant to create the easier path to the better teams, but the better teams are still winning regardless of seeding. What team, so far, has lost based on being a lower seed than they should have been?
So would you feel better if Loyola beat Marist next week instead of this week?
They beat Montini last year. It doesn’t matter. Just play the game.
My understanding is that the IHSA simply administers what the members want. A member school could put a proposal out there and have it voted on by the membership.
There isn't a football coach in our state that doesn't not want every class seeded 1-32.
I’m aware of that and saying they didn’t deserve to host because of their Mickey Mouse schedule compared to Maine South who played real teams this year
Would be at Althoff. Not the first time you've asked this. Scared of the children of the corn? 😉
Id want to see them change how they seed 1-8 in class 7a/8a. Massey, AP, Maxpreps, etc. Something better to avoid the top teams from meeting before the qtr finals.
Last time someone said in the fields. Since this tread, made me think it would be in civilization. Not scared - excited to welcome them! No shenanigans, not at all what I mean. But let’s play a home and away series.
Not the same CPC team as last year. Althoff wins easy and the clock may run.
Those computers have some absurd ratings every time I see them. Not sure how they could come to some of those conclusions.
Im not necessarily proposing one computer over the other. But the current system does not account for a wide disparity in SOS and often over rates a 9-0 team over a 2 or 3 loss team that played a much tougher schedule. At least with the AP polls, that is taken in to account. I don't think there would be any other seeding system that would have had rd 2 matchups of LA/Marist, Byron/Montini, SCN/MC, etc.
AP currently has Loyola at #6 in 8A, West Aurora at #10, and York not in the top 10. Do those rankings make sense to you?
They did, but it shows the current record as of yesterday's games so not sure if they're still ranking them.
The thing is I know how the current system works and it's objective and fair. When we start introducing people and computer algorithms you're going to get a lot of BS explanations from irrational actors and inexplicable ratings from computers. This system does away with all the shenanigans.
The current system has Loyola at # 12 in 8a and Mt. Carmel at #17. How accurate do you think those are?
They're objective and transparent. What went into the AP ranking that has Loyola at #6 in 8A? No one knows and I have an issue with that.
Almost 50 and still have nightmares about that movie! Thanks! 😂
1-32 is a must, but I’ll give you a possible scenario that I find highly questionable. IF LF were to be Geneva at home this week, and if CG takes care of business vs BN, the semi final would be at LF. Therefore the lower ranked team would host both the Quarters and Semis.
My issue is using objective and transparent to be synonymous with accurate. I think accuracy is just as important when seeding for the purpose of the state playoffs as objectivity and transparency.
Because 1-32 gives you a better chance of having the 2 best teams meeting in the finals. My example of seeding 3A 1-32 would have meant Byron and Montini would have met in the final versus the 2nd round and that would have been with Montini seeded at #14.
We don't have any way at all to determine what is accurate. The closest we can do is at the end of the playoffs knowing who was #1 (which is still subject to matchups) in each bracket.
They say it’s for travel reasons…but Illini West still had to travel over 4 hours for a first round 2A game.
I don't understand this comment. The seeds aren't meant to be predictive. It's a system to reward teams on the strength on what they accomplished during the season. Look st the ncaa tournament. You don't see them punting on the idea of seeding teams because they can't predict who will win the championship. They also dont seed 20 win socon team ahead of a 20 win team from the b10 because they understand the schedules weren't the same.
Then I don't know what you mean by accurate. The NCAA tournament is seeded by a committee that gets it wrong all the time and often times based on biases, that's how we get Cinderellas. But that's apples and oranges anyways. A closer analogy would be the IHSA basketball seedings, but there's more games to judge in basketball and coaches (who do the seeding) have more opportunity to see the teams they're seeding.
Im not getting hung up on it all, but your 2 points are contradicting. If the best team wins, what difference does it make? And it goes beyond just the best team will win. Marist had a season deserving of a better draw than LA in the 2nd rd. The same goes for many others.
So you want subjective seeding done by computers but not 1-32?
