Dream Match up

[flyerforlife]

What are the chances of getting the top 2 Quarterbacks in Illiniois to play against each other in the East st. Louis classic next year their SR season

J.J. vs Tyler

NAZ. vs East St. Louis

Lets make it happen. I know everyone whats to see this....

 

[NFRebel13]

JJ goes to Naz

 

[flyerforlife]

JJ goes to Naz

correct that what I meant Naz.Since they have never played

 

[SOUTHSIDECFD]

Saint Ignatius High School (Cleveland) or Permian High School (Odessa, Texas) who were co-rated #1 in the country in 1989 vs 1989 ESL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_School_Football_National_Championship

 

[Wassup13]

Last year - Loyola vs Naz

 

[godfthr53]

2014-2015 Montini vs. Naz

 

[Bowie50]

LA v NAZ

let’s end the debate.

 

[USD24]

JWAR vs Bones!

 

[Odirty]

Saint Ignatius High School (Cleveland) or Permian High School (Odessa, Texas) who were co-rated #1 in the country in 1989 vs 1989 ESL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_School_Football_National_Championship

Was this a shot fired

 

[flyerforlife]

Was this a shot fired

He always do I just ignore him. He is a nobody. I never respond to it.

 

[Bowie50]

How about ESL v. LA? All breaks No gas all the way to Wilmette. Speed vs. D. I do not think that ESL makes more stops than LA in this match up and LA's O (exception 2018) can put up points. Your thoughts?

 

[flyerforlife]

How about ESL v. LA? All breaks No gas all the way to Wilmette. Speed vs. D. I do not think that ESL makes more stops than LA in this match up and LA's O (exception 2018) can put up points. Your thoughts?

I like that match up too

 

[Cross Bones]

Brook v Shelbyville

 

[SOUTHSIDECFD]

He always do I just ignore him. He is a nobody. I never respond to it.

What is the justification for your 1989 claim?

 

[crusader_of_90]

I've challenged that before - seems there are multiple outlets that crown their own.

This is what USA Today has for 1989:
1989
1. Cleveland St. Ignatius (13-0)
2. Odessa, Texas Permian (16-0)
3. Fontana, Calif. (14-0)
4. Pittsburgh Upper St. Clair (15-0)
5. Rockingham, N.C. Richmond Co. (15-0)
6. East St. Louis, Ill. (14-0)
7. Hazelwood, Mo. East (14-0)

Althoff, ESL and Hazelwood all won titles that year. Our only loss was to Hazelwood in the opener - future San Diego Charger, Terrell Fletcher, got us with a fourth-quarter pick-six to give his team the nine-point win.

We did not lose again until after I graduated.

 

[SOUTHSIDECFD]

I've challenged that before - seems there are multiple outlets that crown their own.

This is what USA Today has for 1989:
1989
1. Cleveland St. Ignatius (13-0)
2. Odessa, Texas Permian (16-0)
3. Fontana, Calif. (14-0)
4. Pittsburgh Upper St. Clair (15-0)
5. Rockingham, N.C. Richmond Co. (15-0)
6. East St. Louis, Ill. (14-0)
7. Hazelwood, Mo. East (14-0)

Althoff, ESL and Hazelwood all won titles that year. Our only loss was to Hazelwood in the opener - future San Diego Charger, Terrell Fletcher, got us with a fourth-quarter pick-six to give his team the nine-point win.

We did not lose again until after I graduated.

Thanks.

It's great he is big supporter of his team, and they were a very very good team. I just can't find anywhere that they were rated number one. I'd do the same post if anyone claimed to rated #1 in the country and could not document it.

 

[flyerforlife]

980sEast St. Louis (Ill.), 1985Coach: Bob Shannon
Record: 14-0
Points For/Against: 679-53
Games: Marshall (Mo.), 53-3; Sumner (Mo.), 42-7; Granite City, 60-0; Belleville West, 37-0; Barrington, 40-6; Belleville East, 58-8; Alton, 58-3; Lincoln (East St. Louis) 61-7; Collinsville, 76-0; Danville, 44-0; Lockport Township, 58-12; Sandburg, 13-0; Buffalo Grove, 33-7; Brother Rice, 46-0.
Notable Names: Bryan Cox, LB, NFL; Ronnie Cameron, QB, Parade All-American
Also considered: Vigor (Pritchard, Ala.), 13-0. Considered the top team in Alabama history; Archbishop Moeller (Cincinnati, Ohio), 1982. Defeated Washington (Massillon) in state finals; Berwick (Pa.), 1983, 13-0. Posted 11 shutouts; Valdosta (Ga.), 1986. Fifth of Valdosta's six national championship teams.
Notes: Shannon won six state titles and two national championships with the Flyers with the 1985 team being his best squad. Led by Parade All-American Ronnie Cameron and future NFL linebacker Bryan Cox, East St. Louis averaged 45 points a game and posted six shutouts. That included a 46-0 win over Brother Rice in the Illinois state championship game.


https://www.maxpreps.com/news/Fnc6_...igh-school-football-team-from-each-decade.htm

 

[crusader_of_90]

Was that Barrington game at "the venerable" stadium in ESL?

 

[LHSTigers94]

Thanks.

It's great he is big supporter of his team, and they were a very very good team. I just can't find anywhere that they were rated number one. I'd do the same post if anyone claimed to rated #1 in the country and could not document it.

Why is it important? It's an opinion poll as NONE of the teams play each other. USA Today is just one poll

 

[SOUTHSIDECFD]

980sEast St. Louis (Ill.), 1985Coach: Bob Shannon
Record: 14-0
Points For/Against: 679-53
Games: Marshall (Mo.), 53-3; Sumner (Mo.), 42-7; Granite City, 60-0; Belleville West, 37-0; Barrington, 40-6; Belleville East, 58-8; Alton, 58-3; Lincoln (East St. Louis) 61-7; Collinsville, 76-0; Danville, 44-0; Lockport Township, 58-12; Sandburg, 13-0; Buffalo Grove, 33-7; Brother Rice, 46-0.
Notable Names: Bryan Cox, LB, NFL; Ronnie Cameron, QB, Parade All-American
Also considered: Vigor (Pritchard, Ala.), 13-0. Considered the top team in Alabama history; Archbishop Moeller (Cincinnati, Ohio), 1982. Defeated Washington (Massillon) in state finals; Berwick (Pa.), 1983, 13-0. Posted 11 shutouts; Valdosta (Ga.), 1986. Fifth of Valdosta's six national championship teams.
Notes: Shannon won six state titles and two national championships with the Flyers with the 1985 team being his best squad. Led by Parade All-American Ronnie Cameron and future NFL linebacker Bryan Cox, East St. Louis averaged 45 points a game and posted six shutouts. That included a 46-0 win over Brother Rice in the Illinois state championship game.


https://www.maxpreps.com/news/Fnc6_...igh-school-football-team-from-each-decade.htm

1985 was great team. But we are talking about 1989. A very good team just not rated #1 in the nation that year by anyone that the rest of us can find.

 

[corey90]

What are the chances of getting the top 2 Quarterbacks in Illiniois to play against each other in the East st. Louis classic next year their SR season

J.J. vs Tyler

NAZ. vs East St. Louis

Lets make it happen. I know everyone whats to see this....

LWE vs ESL
I don’t believe the have played each other and it would be a interesting game.

Here would be another big game
LWE vs JCA
I don’t believe they have player each other and being local it would draw a big crowd.

Thoughts?

 

[flyerforlife]

1985 was great team. But we are talking about 1989. A very good team just not rated #1 in the nation that year by anyone that the rest of us can find.

If you can read it says he won 2 national titles.

 

[flyerforlife]

LWE vs ESL
I don’t believe the have played each other and it would be a interesting game.

Here would be another big game
LWE vs JCA
I don’t believe they have player each other and being local it would draw a big crowd.

Thoughts?

Would love to see LWE vs ESL

 

[SOUTHSIDECFD]

If you can read it says he won 2 national titles.

Yes it does but does not list 1989. Still looking for a site that lists 1989.

National Championships by school (multiple winners only)
School Championships Years
Massillon, OH, Washington 9 1935, 1936, 1939, 1940, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1959, 1961
Concord, CA, De La Salle 7 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003
Valdosta, GA 6 1962, 1969, 1971, 1984, 1986, 1992
Miami, FL 5 1942, 1943, 1960, 1962,1965
Cincinnati, OH, Moeller 5 1976, 1977, 1979, 1980, 1982
Oak Park, IL 5 1910, 1911, 1912, 1913, 1920
Coral Gables, FL 4 1964, 1967, 1968, 1969
Santa Ana, CA, Mater Dei 4 1994, 1996, 2017, 2018
Austin, TX, Reagan 3 1967, 1968, 1970
Berwick, PA 3 1983, 1992, 1995
Cleveland, OH, St. Ignatius 3 1989, 1993, 1995
Southlake, TX, Carroll 3 2004, 2005, 2006
Las Vegas, NV, Bishop Gorman 3 2014, 2015, 2016
Canton, OH, McKinley 2 1934, 1997
Everett, MA 2 1914, 1915
Fort Lauderdale, FL, St. Thomas Aquinas 2 2008, 2010
Lakeland, FL 2 2005, 2006
Little Rock, AR, Central 2 1946, 1957
Odessa, TX, Permian 2 1972, 1989
Pine Bluff, AR 2 1925, 1939
Ramsey, NJ, Don Bosco Prep 2 2009, 2011
San Diego High School, San Diego, CA 2 1916, 1955
Toledo, OH, Scott 2 1922, 1923
Toledo, OH, Waite 2 1924, 1932
Tuscaloosa, AL 2 1926, 1929
Waco, TX, 2 1927, 1948
Warner Robins, GA 2 1976, 1981

 

[LHSTigers94]

Yes it does but does not list 1989. Still looking for a site that lists 1989.

National Championships by school (multiple winners only)
School Championships Years
Massillon, OH, Washington 9 1935, 1936, 1939, 1940, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1959, 1961
Concord, CA, De La Salle 7 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003
Valdosta, GA 6 1962, 1969, 1971, 1984, 1986, 1992
Miami, FL 5 1942, 1943, 1960, 1962,1965
Cincinnati, OH, Moeller 5 1976, 1977, 1979, 1980, 1982
Oak Park, IL 5 1910, 1911, 1912, 1913, 1920
Coral Gables, FL 4 1964, 1967, 1968, 1969
Santa Ana, CA, Mater Dei 4 1994, 1996, 2017, 2018
Austin, TX, Reagan 3 1967, 1968, 1970
Berwick, PA 3 1983, 1992, 1995
Cleveland, OH, St. Ignatius 3 1989, 1993, 1995
Southlake, TX, Carroll 3 2004, 2005, 2006
Las Vegas, NV, Bishop Gorman 3 2014, 2015, 2016
Canton, OH, McKinley 2 1934, 1997
Everett, MA 2 1914, 1915
Fort Lauderdale, FL, St. Thomas Aquinas 2 2008, 2010
Lakeland, FL 2 2005, 2006
Little Rock, AR, Central 2 1946, 1957
Odessa, TX, Permian 2 1972, 1989
Pine Bluff, AR 2 1925, 1939
Ramsey, NJ, Don Bosco Prep 2 2009, 2011
San Diego High School, San Diego, CA 2 1916, 1955
Toledo, OH, Scott 2 1922, 1923
Toledo, OH, Waite 2 1924, 1932
Tuscaloosa, AL 2 1926, 1929
Waco, TX, 2 1927, 1948
Warner Robins, GA 2 1976, 1981

Unfortunately everything from 1989 is not on the internet. Apparently someone thought they were national champs somewhere. It's no different then USA today compared to Max Preps and Rivals. Prep Nation also had a poll at one time as well. In 2016 ESL was 17 USA Today expert ranking, 15 USA today computer ranking and 70 Max Preps ranking.

Point is the fact that you only have USA today ranking and trying to make it law simply because other ranking from 1989 aren't on the internet says you have a hidden agenda. Not sure what it is and really don't care. The fact that it is mentioned in article says that someone other than Flyer fans recognize the national championship as well. Good luck with your quest to prove something from 1989!

 

[SOUTHSIDECFD]

Unfortunately everything from 1989 is not on the internet. Apparently someone thought they were national champs somewhere. It's no different then USA today compared to Max Preps and Rivals. Prep Nation also had a poll at one time as well. In 2016 ESL was 17 USA Today expert ranking, 15 USA today computer ranking and 70 Max Preps ranking.

Point is the fact that you only have USA today ranking and trying to make it law simply because other ranking from 1989 aren't on the internet says you have a hidden agenda. Not sure what it is and really don't care. The fact that it is mentioned in article says that someone other than Flyer fans recognize the national championship as well. Good luck with your quest to prove something from 1989!

National Champions by year
Selector Years
National Sports News Service (NSNS) 1910–1916, 1918–1943, 1946–1999
Louisiana Sports Association (LSA) 1938–39
USA Today (USA) 1982–present
National Prep Poll (NPP) 1987–present
MaxPreps Freeman Computer Rankings (Freeman) 2004–present
MaxPreps Xcellent 25 Rankings (Xcellent25) 2008–present
High School Football America Top 25 (Algorithm) 2012–present

Still trying to find it. It's a quest like climbing Everest.

 

[crusader_of_90]

If you google the right phrase, it leads back to a thread here in which I first questioned the claim.

That was my junior year - our front door was six miles from theirs.

I’m sure somewhere someone (insignificant) named them a national champ - but I did not hear about it. I do believe Stl Post D ranked Hazelwood 1, ESL 2 and Althoff 3. Three state titles.

The size HE had - bigger than us and we were bigger than ESL - set them apart. That was the only 300 pounder I ever had to block (only punt team - I was second string then.) T Fletcher as good or better than Chris Moore. And Homer Bush as a receiver, for that matter.

 

[corey90]

If you google the right phrase, it leads back to a thread here in which I first questioned the claim.

That was my junior year - our front door was six miles from theirs.

I’m sure somewhere someone (insignificant) named them a national champ - but I did not hear about it. I do believe Stl Post D ranked Hazelwood 1, ESL 2 and Althoff 3. Three state titles.

The size HE had - bigger than us and we were bigger than ESL - set them apart. That was the only 300 pounder I ever had to block (only punt team - I was second string then.) T Fletcher as good or better than Chris Moore. And Homer Bush as a receiver, for that matter.

No matter. If your in the top 25 your good. 2005 LWE finished #9.
It’s hard to say who is #1 because they don’t play each other. Enjoy having a good year and be happy.

 

[flyerforlife]

https://www.victoriaadvocate.com/ne...cle_d9d37482-e8fd-505a-87f8-d412d73ee31b.html

Read article. Southside

 

[SOUTHSIDECFD]

https://www.victoriaadvocate.com/ne...cle_d9d37482-e8fd-505a-87f8-d412d73ee31b.html

Read article. Southside

Exceptional team! Maybe #3 in the nation. Just not rated #1 by USA Today, National Prep Poll, or National Sports News Service.

One of the best teams of the 80's in Illinois and one of the best in the nation in that time frame too. No argument on that front either.