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Any news/rumors on who the finalists are?Still interviewing. Was told mid-February is when they hoped to have a coach in place.
Any news/rumors on who the finalists are?
Yeah, I am just so curious about this hire, and I know that is your neck of the woods out there, so I wasn't sure if you would have heard anything. I just would have thought that if this was an in building hire they would have been good to announce it by now. Should be interesting once the news comes out in FebruaryLK
No I have nothing. Usually we get a few whispers here and there but nothing at all. Kinda of strange. I have heard that likely candidates in the building stand the best chance but who that is I don't know.
You mean within the school? I thought I saw a director of development job open still. Not sure if they have filled that position by now, though. And did you get the names of any of those candidates?Word is they got some good candidates. Whether they match up with an opening on staff is a hump.
You mean within the school? I thought I saw a director of development job open still. Not sure if they have filled that position by now, though. And did you get the names of any of those candidates?
Is there anybody in the building that could take them to the level they should be? The school can't be mediocar. It will effect enrollment.Yah sorry didn't explain that so good. Internal candidates is what I have heard but haven't been able to confirm who that might be.
I won't mention names, or confirm anyone's guess, but a name familiar around Carmel that starts with a "P" I have heard rumor of being a good candidate. Don't know how good that information is, but you heard it here first!
Is there anybody in the building that could take them to the level they should be? The school can't be mediocar. It will effect enrollment.
I heard they have some real big name youth football coaches applying...LOL
It all goes back to how incompetent the administration is.No - program needs a complete rebuild and will only happen with an outsider. No doubt people inside the buildings will be on the staff and
the one outside person I heard about has concerns about having total control of the program with Andy still as AD. Kinda of like at Wisconsin with Barry Alvarez
It seems with what happened there I would think that the powers above would tell Andy that the football program is off limits to control to what goes on. Wouldn't you think anyways?No - program needs a complete rebuild and will only happen with an outsider. No doubt people inside the buildings will be on the staff and
the one outside person I heard about has concerns about having total control of the program with Andy still as AD. Kinda of like at Wisconsin with Barry Alvarez
He has been told that. He has absolutely no input in football. Again, an incompetent administration. How can you terminate your head football coach, keep him as AD, then tell him he has nothing to do with football? Disaster.It seems with what happened there I would think that the powers above would tell Andy that the football program is off limits to control to what goes on. Wouldn't you think anyways?
Disaster seems to be the right word here!He has been told that. He has absolutely no input in football. Again, an incompetent administration. How can you terminate your head football coach, keep him as AD, then tell him he has nothing to do with football? Disaster.
I heard they have some real big name youth football coaches applying...LOL
It's worked at another ESCC school pretty well.He has been told that. He has absolutely no input in football. Again, an incompetent administration. How can you terminate your head football coach, keep him as AD, then tell him he has nothing to do with football? Disaster.
It's worked at another ESCC school pretty well.
2002-03 4 6 Gary Goforth
2003-04 7 5 Gary Goforth
2004-05 6 4 Gary Goforth
2005-06 2 7 Gary Goforth
2006-07 6 5 Gary Goforth
2007-08 3 6 Gary Goforth
2008-09 2 7 Gary Goforth
2009-10 3 6 Gary Goforth
2010-11 5 5 Patrick J. New
2011-12 1 8 Patrick J. New
2012-13 11 2 Patrick New
2013-14 6 4 Pat New
2014-15 6 4 Pat New
2015-16 8 3 Patrick New
2016-17 10 3 Patrick New
2017-18 9 4 Patrick New
Sorry, I do not understand
Gary Goforth is AD and previous head coach
I just did not understand the correlation to Carmel since Goforth retired peacefully after 31 years, with an "open door" to come back into coaching. He went out on his own accord. Sounds nothing like the situation at Carmel. Administration fired its head coach, did a terrible job of doing it, had no succession plan, left a school divided, and a football program in shambles. Then they leave the guy in the building as AD and tell him you have no say so in football.Tell me the comparison here...Gary Goforth is AD and previous head coach
Fish stinks from the head down...How does someone think it is a good idea to fire the football coach and then allow him to remain on as the Athletic Director. The whole department has to be toxic.
It's worked at another ESCC school pretty well.
2002-03 4 6 Gary Goforth
2003-04 7 5 Gary Goforth
2004-05 6 4 Gary Goforth
2005-06 2 7 Gary Goforth
2006-07 6 5 Gary Goforth
2007-08 3 6 Gary Goforth
2008-09 2 7 Gary Goforth
2009-10 3 6 Gary Goforth
2010-11 5 5 Patrick J. New
2011-12 1 8 Patrick J. New
2012-13 11 2 Patrick New
2013-14 6 4 Pat New
2014-15 6 4 Pat New
2015-16 8 3 Patrick New
2016-17 10 3 Patrick New
2017-18 9 4 Patrick New
This sounds much closer to the current transition at JCA than what is going on at Carmel.Not even close to being the same thing. Pat New was on the staff for 2 years as an Asst. prior to moving to HC. Gary Goforth was ready to retire from coaching and stayed on initially as a teacher and AD, then after another year just AD. My understanding was he was part of the hiring process. He is still involved with the program in that he still does their schedules, provides needed items and on the sidelines/press box at each game, just like a normal AD interacts with a FB program.
I just did not understand the correlation to Carmel since Goforth retired peacefully after 31 years, with an "open door" to come back into coaching. He went out on his own accord. Sounds nothing like the situation at Carmel. Administration fired its head coach, did a terrible job of doing it, had no succession plan, left a school divided, and a football program in shambles. Then they leave the guy in the building as AD and tell him you have no say so in football.Tell me the comparison here...
Pat New sure has taken the program to another level after Goforth.Not even close to being the same thing. Pat New was on the staff for 2 years as an Asst. prior to moving to HC. Gary Goforth was ready to retire from coaching and stayed on initially as a teacher and AD, then after another year just AD. My understanding was he was part of the hiring process. He is still involved with the program in that he still does their schedules, provides needed items and on the sidelines/press box at each game, just like a normal AD interacts with a FB program.