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I went to the 8A game last fall, but I probably would not take off a day of work to do that.

My Friday after Thanksgiving tradition is to watch games while I make turkey soup. My family knows that and gives me that day to enjoy.
That is my point. These games on Thanksgiving weekend are not going to increase much with a venue change. People have family things planned but I also don't think they increase significantly on another weekend. It is just not a draw to casual fans and that is ok.

And don't get me wrong, I get to watch my fair share of games!
 
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What makes you think that? You think more people would go just to say they went to Soldier Field? As Hillman said, the people that go will go no matter where the games are played and those that watch on TV will continue to do so.

If you're basing it on location do you think more fans of ESL will make the trip to Chicago vs. Bloomington? Outside of 7A and 8A there's a southern rep in every title game and traveling to Chicago is less than ideal. MC63 wants the games in Chicago so he's not inconvenienced with a 2 hour drive.
There are 9 million people within a 30mile radius of Chicago.
 
I think we all have the best intentions to see these HS kids get to play in front of as many fans as possible. I just don't think it changes much with any type of location or date change...again JMO.
 
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There are 9 million people within a 30mile radius of Chicago.
And I'll say it again, the casual fan doesn't go to the championship games now, moving them to Chicago won't change that. You think any of the fans of Bloomington or Normal schools go to the games if their teams aren't playing just because it's in their backyard?

How many more people do you see attending games at Soldier Field vs. Bloomington? I don't think it's enough to make a difference in overall attendance. How many people attended the prep bowl at Soldier Field?
 
And I'll say it again, the casual fan doesn't go to the championship games now, moving them to Chicago won't change that. You think any of the fans of Bloomington or Normal schools go to the games if their teams aren't playing just because it's in their backyard?

How many more people do you see attending games at Soldier Field vs. Bloomington? I don't think it's enough to make a difference in overall attendance. How many people attended the prep bowl at Soldier Field?
The casual fan doesn't go to the championship games now, moving them to Chicago won't change that. Disagree. You'll get more alumni and fans of the school to attend. Parents, immediate family and those who ride the fan bus are going no matter where it's at in the state.

You'd get more high school players to go to the games. IE, I would bet numerous CCL players would want to go watch the state finals at Solider Field but ain't traveling to Bloomington or Champaign to watch em.


You think any of the fans of Bloomington or Normal schools go to the games if their teams aren't playing just because it's in their backyard? Yes

How many more people do you see attending games at Soldier Field vs. Bloomington? I don't think it's enough to make a difference in overall attendance. Only one way to find out.

How many people attended the prep bowl at Soldier Field? Clown question


It's never going to be at Solider Field, I get it and don't care. I'm just of the opinion that it would be cool to have the games there and you would get larger crowds.
 
The people that travel to the state games will still go no matter where the games are held and those that stay home will continue to stay home. High school football championship games in Illinois don't bring out the casual fans, only the die hards and fans of the teams playing.

And you know this how?

If the games were at Soldier Field, how many more Loyola fans would attend? 100? 1,000? It wouldn't be enough to warrant what it would cost to host the games there. If the games were at Soldier Field and Loyola wasn't playing would you still go to the 8A game?

I got home from ISU last fall at around 1:45 in the morning because the 8A game got over so late. Don't know if I would do that again. I'd definitely do it again if I knew I could be home by 11:45 or 12.

Why use that one example of one school from one class? Most of the larger schools in the finals are Chicago area schools. Would it be worth it if an extra thousand or so fans from each of last year's 10 Chicago area finalists attended a game in Soldier Field.

And, yes, I just might go to the 8A game in Soldier Field if LA wasn't in it. Wouldn't be the first time I attended a title game without LA in it.
 
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And you know this how?



I got home from ISU last fall at around 1:45 in the morning because the 8A game got over so late. Don't know if I would do that again. I'd definitely do it again if I knew I could be home by 11:45 or 12.

Why use that one example of one school from one class? Most of the larger schools in the finals are Chicago area schools. Would it be worth it if an extra thousand or so fans from each of last year's 10 Chicago area finalists attended a game in Soldier Field.

And, yes, I just might go to the 8A game in Soldier Field if LA wasn't in it. Wouldn't be the first time I attended a title game without LA in it.
Agree with everything here.
 
The casual fan doesn't go to the championship games now, moving them to Chicago won't change that. Disagree. You'll get more alumni and fans of the school to attend. Parents, immediate family and those who ride the fan bus are going no matter where it's at in the state.

You'd get more high school players to go to the games. IE, I would bet numerous CCL players would want to go watch the state finals at Solider Field but ain't traveling to Bloomington or Champaign to watch em.


You think any of the fans of Bloomington or Normal schools go to the games if their teams aren't playing just because it's in their backyard? Yes

How many more people do you see attending games at Soldier Field vs. Bloomington? I don't think it's enough to make a difference in overall attendance. Only one way to find out.

How many people attended the prep bowl at Soldier Field? Clown question


It's never going to be at Solider Field, I get it and don't care. I'm just of the opinion that it would be cool to have the games there and you would get larger crowds.
You're leaving out the factor of it being Thanksgiving weekend. The casual fan isn't abandoning family plans to go to a HS football game, regardless of location.

From many suburban locations it can still take up to an hour to get to Soldier Field.

Even if everything you said is true, with the size of Soldier Field it's not going to appear as though there is a larger crowd.
 
And you know this how?

Years of state title games always having roughly the same attendance.

I got home from ISU last fall at around 1:45 in the morning because the 8A game got over so late. Don't know if I would do that again. I'd definitely do it again if I knew I could be home by 11:45 or 12.

So you want to change the system to be more convenient for you? I don't remember hearing any ESL fans complaining about Dekalb.
Why use that one example of one school from one class? Most of the larger schools in the finals are Chicago area schools. Would it be worth it if an extra thousand or so fans from each of last year's 10 Chicago area finalists attended a game in Soldier Field.

Most are within an hour of Soldier Field and 2 hours from Bloomington. It's a very small group of you complaining about an extra hour of travel for one game.
 
You're leaving out the factor of it being Thanksgiving weekend. The casual fan isn't abandoning family plans to go to a HS football game, regardless of location.

From many suburban locations it can still take up to an hour to get to Soldier Field.

Even if everything you said is true, with the size of Soldier Field it's not going to appear as though there is a larger crowd.
Now your changing the goalposts and adding Thanksgiving weekend as a factor and even if there’s more people the stadium will look empty.

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Now your changing the goalposts and adding Thanksgiving weekend as a factor and even if there’s more people the stadium will look empty.

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Go back and look, I've made the point about Thanksgiving weekend multiple times.

It's fairly obvious that 10,000-15,000 people in a 60,000 seat stadium would look empty.
 
ISU is about 10 miles farther from the population center of the state (roughly Morris) than Soldier Field. So they're roughly equal in their ability to centrally serve the most amount of people equally.
I’d rather sit in the farm fields of Central IL than the Lake front of Chicago on a late November day. Build me a dome and we can talk.
 
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Let’s meet in the middle here

With 15k in attendance will soldier field look empty YES

Is it foolish to think that a 2 hour drive won’t affect attendance for 2/3 of the state YES

If I had to pick a location for the state game for 1 year - North Central College or the dome at Northwestern
- no parking or stands

IMO the state game needs to be played under a dome and this does NOT exist in Illinois
 
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You're leaving out the factor of it being Thanksgiving weekend. The casual fan isn't abandoning family plans to go to a HS football game, regardless of location.

From many suburban locations it can still take up to an hour to get to Soldier Field.

Even if everything you said is true, with the size of Soldier Field it's not going to appear as though there is a larger crowd.
Personally, I don't think any HS games or college games should be played at Soldier Field as long as the Bears play there and it is natural grass.
 
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Personally, I don't think any HS games or college games should be played at Soldier Field as long as the Bears play there and it is natural grass.
That and I'm not sure what hoops would need to be jumped through for it to be ok with the park district.
 
I always thought Toyota Park would be a good venue. Like Soldier Field, the natural grass would be a problem.
 
I honestly have never been but the size seems like a great fit.
Location too. Close to 55/294. People from southern/western IL would not have to travel into the city. I always thought it would be a good spot for a multi-game season opening series. Similar to the “classics” that used to be hosted at Soldier Field/NIU.
 
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