Does it really? In looking at results of championship games over the last few years, there are as many, if not more, high scoring championship games than low scoring battles.Defense wins championships.
Does it really? In looking at results of championship games over the last few years, there are as many, if not more, high scoring championship games than low scoring battles.Defense wins championships.
Are you calling Buddy Ryan a liar! 😀😀Does it really? In looking at results of championship games over the last few years, there are as many, if not more, high scoring championship games than low scoring battles.
At the end of the day the losing team scored less points than the winning team did because the defense didn’t let them 🫡Does it really? In looking at results of championship games over the last few years, there are as many, if not more, high scoring championship games than low scoring battles.
Everyone remembers the swirling rain in the '19 title game. While conditions won't be as bad this year, we don't have a tank like Odeluga. But the defense is as good or better.not ideal
Or the winning team scored more points than the losing team because they had a better offense.At the end of the day the losing team scored less points than the winning team did because the defense didn’t let them 🫡
And Bear Bryant. Nick Saban, however, says "It ain't that way no more." Ideally, you'd want to be good in both categories. Leaves no room for doubt. And then there was a time when the Bears had a high-scoring defense.Buddy Ryan
McCaravan:This game was getting talked about too much on the MC/SR thread so I figured I would give the game it proper own thread.
The main headline on this game is the “revenge” factor for Batavia. I won’t get into the final drive of last years game, I said my peace on it over a year ago. But wanting to play MC again for revenge is silly. MC did nothing wrong. MC didn’t cheat, MC didn’t play dirty or cheap shot anyone, MC didn’t pay off the refs. MC has been getting flagged for just about anything under the sun this year, nothing has been let slide. MC has played the last 40 years with a bullseye on their back. They are circled on every teams schedule and when they are beaten it makes many teams season. They are used to it. Revenge, if some want to deem this game as, gets your blood pumping but it doesn’t make you faster or more athletic. Revenge ends at kickoff.
I’ll chime more in on the actual game later but I figured I’d address this topic early in the week.
Great post and point taken. Trust me in my line of work, I know what revenge can cause people to do. Like you and I said, it shouldn't be revenge against MC as we did nothing wrong, but as you said, they feel cheated. I know the pay back factor can help in preparation, motivation and increase your work ethic. Its a fire that burns inside. MC knows they are going to get Batavia's best punch, but Batavia needs to know that they are going to get punched back. I always say, revenge will get you through kickoff, then its talent vs. talent.McCaravan:
I've fallen out of favor with a certain segment of South Side residents of late (19th Ward, East Beverly) and am even less popular with a specific Mount Carmel graduate, so I want everyone to know I am in full support of my spiritual cousins, MC, in this title game.
Though I agree MC has traditionally been marked by its opponents, this game is different. Like you, I don't find fault with MC regarding the outcome of the MC-Batavia game last year. The game was not rigged in MC's favor. Nonetheless, Batavia's mind is poisoned with revenge; it is the single greatest motivating factor for the Bulldogs.
MC won last year's playoff game legitimately, but Batavia doesn't see it this way. In Batavia's worldview, they were cheated out of a victory. Both you and I know MC, through no fault of their own, won uprightly. For Batavia, this is about revenge; and MC has to pay.
MC had better keep this in mind.
Must be Tom Dart, who just got a new helicopter and would make a good mayor. I know they call him "T.V. Tom," but he doesn't seem to be corrupt.and am even less popular with a specific Mount Carmel graduate
MC will come to fight, and this is a tough group. As Arrington said, "We play like a fist."MC had better keep this in mind.
If Batavia tries intimidation, the game will be over fast. The key for MC is to be aggressive but to stay within themselves..MC knows they are going to get Batavia's best punch, but Batavia needs to know that they are going to get punched backIf
Or it could possibly be that the game was won by special teamsOr the winning team scored more points than the losing team because they had a better offense.
Silver Rain:Must be Tom Dart, who just got a new helicopter and would make a good mayor. I know they call him "T.V. Tom," but he doesn't seem to be corrupt.
MC will come to fight, and this is a tough group. As Arrington said, "We play like a fist."
If Batavia tries intimidation, the game will be over fast. The key for MC is to be aggressive but to stay within themselves..
McCaravan:Great post and point taken. Trust me in my line of work, I know what revenge can cause people to do. Like you and I said, it shouldn't be revenge against MC as we did nothing wrong, but as you said, they feel cheated. I know the pay back factor can help in preparation, motivation and increase your work ethic. Its a fire that burns inside. MC knows they are going to get Batavia's best punch, but Batavia needs to know that they are going to get punched back. I always say, revenge will get you through kickoff, then its talent vs. talent.
I hear that Alpo is preferred by nine out of ten bulldogs.What do you suggest I do with this spare can of Alpo?
Batavia focusing on a revenge game has purely been (as pointed out earlier in this thread) an SR fan "idea." It is now being perpetuated by an LA poster and other MC fans. I'm VERY confused why MC needs this narrative when, on paper, they are the better team.
Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Jack McInerney referenced the revenge factor live toward the end of the MC - Rita Game on Marque. He actually said Batavia would prefer MC win instead of Rita, so they would have the opportunity to do so.Batavia focusing on a revenge game has purely been (as pointed out earlier in this thread) an SR fan "idea." It is now being perpetuated by an LA poster and other MC fans. I'm VERY confused why MC needs this narrative when, on paper, they are the better team.
Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Jack also backed the refs the entire game in question. I don't like him as an unbiased announcer, but it does appear he was trying to paint a narrative into the game as well.Jack McInerney referenced the revenge factor live toward the end of the MC - Rita Game on Marque. He actually said Batavia would prefer MC win instead of Rita, so they would have the opportunity to do so.
That seemed to prime that topic here as the game concluded. Or just a coincidence.
Maybe the subject hasn't drawn a lot of chatter here, at least until recently, because we have so few Batavians on this board. But Mike O'Brien says in today's Sun-Times that the desire for revenge runs deep in Batavia, and that the coach of the Bulldogs has heard about it every day for a year.Jack McInerney referenced the revenge factor live toward the end of the MC - Rita Game on Marque. He actually said Batavia would prefer MC win instead of Rita, so they would have the opportunity to do so.
That seemed to prime that topic here as the game concluded. Or just a coincidence.
Well then, it seems we are at an impasse. You've made your decision then?O'Brien also states "Batavia doesn’t seem obsessed with revenge against Mount Carmel." In the same article.
Think you got the wrong guy. Was just pointing out a contradiction to the quoted post from the same article.Well then, it seems we are at an impasse. You've made your decision then?
I’m hoping to see a complete utter domination and blowout! But I have no dog in this race.Think you got the wrong guy. Was just pointing out a contradiction to the quoted post from the same article.
IDC who wins this game, just hope it's close and competitive 🤷♂️
Me too. Theoretically, Batavia could win, but it isn't possible, not even theoretically possible, that Batavia wins in a blowout.I’m hoping to see a complete utter domination
I think this whine corked and we are teetering on vinegar!I am not a Batavia fan but you have to also look at their returning starters. Believe it or not it makes a big difference. I think 🤔 they have a lot of returning players which in turn equates to experience. I am not saying the Bulldogs will win I actually picked MC, but this game will be closer than people think. 😊
Was at the game. He looked good. Great to see him finally get on the field.Lausch playing for NW. I know it’s not the right thread but all eyes on this one. LOL
Was that his first game? He gets to hold on to his red shirt right?Was at the game. He looked good. Great to see him finally get on the field.
Correct on both.Was that his first game? He gets to hold on to his red shirt right?
I agree - they were wonderful. How many are juniors?Besides the usual suspects, such as Dowling, Furlong, and Arrington, who played well as always, we had contributions from players who rarely make the headlines. Just a few of the standouts:
Nose tackle Bobby Medina had his first INT.
Noah Smith had an INT and was all over the field.
Tavon Rice had a sack for a 20-yard loss.
Alonzo Manning had over 100 yards rushing.
Jimmy Deacy took it up a notch with two beautiful TD catches.
Bossie turned on the jets and scored a pair of touchdowns.
Manning and Rice. Plus Dupree, Jack Elliott, Darrion Gilliam, Louie Chapetto, Parker Startz, Rhafeeq Katumbusi, and Danyil Taylor will be coming back, giving us a solid foundation.I agree - they were wonderful. How many are juniors?