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Are we just going to act like this didn’t happen?

Trust me, Illinois fans will not forget. As someone who graduated from the school, captained a team at the school, and teach at the school, I love Illinois but there is a very toxic segment of the fan base that will actively root against him forever. Those fans have been merciless towards players like EJ Liddell, Eric Gordon and others that they feel have spurned the U of I. Every fan base has that element but the Illini ones seem to be amongst the worst. They don’t care that he is a 16 year old kid because apparently they never made a mistake at that age.
Isn't "revenge a dish best served cold?"
 
This is starting to border on comical. Would everyone be up in arms if this kid threw a Michigan hat? Or a Tennessee hat? If it was reversed and he had thrown a Nebraska hat and revealed he was going to U of I you guys would be talking about what a legend he is.
Agree 4A
Was it dumb? Yes
Is it the end of the world? No
Seems Illinois fans are hurt.
Big nothing Burger. 🍔
 
More of a reflection of the parents than the kid. I wouldn't be surprised if the parents were in on it or thought of it. Then when the apology comes out the parent says "live and learn son. Live and learn." Obviously the parent hasn't "lived and learned" yet. Yeah, in the scheme of things it's nothing. But why make such a stupid unforced error? The way people are, somewhere in the future the kid may pay a price for that act of stupidity on the parents' part.

Someone got to them afterward and told them what the kid did wasn't cool and he should apologize. The parent is acting like they didn't know it was going to happen. Maybe they didn't. But, I have a hunch they did. Been saying it for years. The biggest problem in youth and high school sports is some parents.
 
More of a reflection of the parents than the kid. I wouldn't be surprised if the parents were in on it or thought of it. Then when the apology comes out the parent says "live and learn son. Live and learn." Obviously the parent hasn't "lived and learned" yet. Yeah, in the scheme of things it's nothing. But why make such a stupid unforced error? The way people are, somewhere in the future the kid may pay a price for that act of stupidity on the parents' part.

Someone got to them afterward and told them what the kid did wasn't cool and he should apologize. The parent is acting like they didn't know it was going to happen. Maybe they didn't. But, I have a hunch they did. Been saying it for years. The biggest problem in youth and high school sports is some parents.
What is interesting to me is the amount of thought being put into something that didn't have much thought. The kid got in the moment and went too far. In the social media age, likes and follows are everything. Bad decision. Similar but not as bad as the bad decision to have a few beers and get behind the wheel. Something I imagine that most of the board do often.

People should stop acting like they make the right decisions all the time. The key is be accountable for the decision that was made. He did that by apologizing. Show me a perfect kid and I will show you the lucky parents who didn't do much different than any other parent that exist. If only you knew ALL the things your kid/kids have done over the years. There should be an award for great parents. I wonder the criteria.
 
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What is interesting to me is the amount of thought being put into something that didn't have much thought. The kid got in the moment and went too far. In the social media age, likes and follows are everything. Bad decision. Similar but not as bad as the bad decision to have a few beers and get behind the wheel. Something I imagine that most of the board do often.

People should stop acting like they make the right decisions all the time. The key is be accountable for the decision that was made. He did that by apologizing. Show me a perfect kid and I will show you the lucky parents who didn't do much different than any other parent that exist. If only you knew ALL the things your kid/kids have done over the years. There should be an award for great parents. I wonder the criteria.
I see you've put some though into it as well.

First of all you're placing all the blame on the kid without knowing what actually happened. We don't know. I tend to think it is a little more about the parents. But I could be wrong. To compare his or their decision to another bad decision doesn't absolve the issue and this decision. I can't tell you how many people of my generation I speak to who say, "man I am glad there weren't any cell phones when we were young." Funny...but not really. We made poor decisions too. Unfortunately now, one poor decision shown on social media can follow a person for years. That is just reality that kids have to understand. Maybe not fair. But it is reality.

Who here is acting like they make all the right decisions in life? This was a poor one. OK, fine. But your line "Show me a perfect kid and I will show you the lucky parents who didn't do much different than any other parent that exist." Is ridiculous. "Lucky parents" are those who DON'T parent and guide kids and the kids still turn out fine. Sure, "bad" kids can come from "good" parents and vice-versa. But the overwhelming stats tell us that the odds of a kid turning out "fine" will come from good parents and TWO parents. And there are NO perfect kids anywhere.

There are exceptions to every rule. I will repeat that because I know you'll cherry-pick something. There are exceptions to every rule. But it is the exception if a kid who turns out fine comes from bad parenting or single parenting. Not the rule. There are numbers everywhere to support this. Check out how many people are in prison who came from bad situations and low income neighborhoods and you will find the numbers overwhelming. It's the exceptional kid who escapes that situation. Hey, bad kids come from middle and higher income neighborhoods too. The percentages are just lower. What do you think the reasons are?

I am not saying the next stop for this kid is jail. Far from that. He seems like a lot of other normal kids. As long as he learned something from this he will be fine. The thought that he is attending Carmel tells me he has parents who care and a mistake was made. OK fine.

I will bet there are a lot of guys here who have heard people tell them they have good kids. Do you think that is an accident? Being a parent is frickin' hard. No one has a perfect way to parent that will work for everyone. But all kids need guidance and too many parents are absent for that. Not saying it is happening here. But you were talking about parenting in general.

Sorry for getting on the soap box and thank you for reading.
 
I have to say this. Nevermind most of what I said about the kid, although I didn't say anything bad about him. I am sure he's fine. It is most likely all good. But, I know why he slipped. Think about it. He's a sophomore, right? What do you think is on his mind 95% of the time? YEAH, GIRLS!! LOL. That would mess anyone up. We all remember that.

I looked back on my sophomore year 50+ seasons ago. My sophomore year at Lockport was especially punishing. I had three female teachers who were absolutely smokin' hot. All in their mid to late 20s and if some of you remember, the skirts and dresses were especially short. Real nice wheels. One was an English teacher for the first semester. The second was an English teacher for the second semester. And the third was my Algebra teacher all year.

Ever hear the song "Hot For Teacher" by Van Halen? That was me and each one of them could have been in that video. All the guys talked about them. Talk about frustration. But I fixed that. (not how you think and get your mind out of the gutter, LOL) I dated a senior who "knew what she was doing." What's funny about it was when she met and got to know my mom. One day after she left my mom said to me, "I just love her. She is such a cute little girl." LOL. I really wanted to say, "mom if you knew what she was doing with your boy you might not feel the same way." LOL😄😄😄 That could have been a bad decision if precautions weren't taken.

So, I blame the girls. LOL I know he is surrounded by them.
 
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I see you've put some though into it as well.

First of all you're placing all the blame on the kid without knowing what actually happened. We don't know. I tend to think it is a little more about the parents. But I could be wrong. To compare his or their decision to another bad decision doesn't absolve the issue and this decision. I can't tell you how many people of my generation I speak to who say, "man I am glad there weren't any cell phones when we were young." Funny...but not really. We made poor decisions too. Unfortunately now, one poor decision shown on social media can follow a person for years. That is just reality that kids have to understand. Maybe not fair. But it is reality.

Who here is acting like they make all the right decisions in life? This was a poor one. OK, fine. But your line "Show me a perfect kid and I will show you the lucky parents who didn't do much different than any other parent that exist." Is ridiculous. "Lucky parents" are those who DON'T parent and guide kids and the kids still turn out fine. Sure, "bad" kids can come from "good" parents and vice-versa. But the overwhelming stats tell us that the odds of a kid turning out "fine" will come from good parents and TWO parents. And there are NO perfect kids anywhere.

There are exceptions to every rule. I will repeat that because I know you'll cherry-pick something. There are exceptions to every rule. But it is the exception if a kid who turns out fine comes from bad parenting or single parenting. Not the rule. There are numbers everywhere to support this. Check out how many people are in prison who came from bad situations and low income neighborhoods and you will find the numbers overwhelming. It's the exceptional kid who escapes that situation. Hey, bad kids come from middle and higher income neighborhoods too. The percentages are just lower. What do you think the reasons are?

I am not saying the next stop for this kid is jail. Far from that. He seems like a lot of other normal kids. As long as he learned something from this he will be fine. The thought that he is attending Carmel tells me he has parents who care and a mistake was made. OK fine.

I will bet there are a lot of guys here who have heard people tell them they have good kids. Do you think that is an accident? Being a parent is frickin' hard. No one has a perfect way to parent that will work for everyone. But all kids need guidance and too many parents are absent for that. Not saying it is happening here. But you were talking about parenting in general.

Sorry for getting on the soap box and thank you for reading.
Yes I took time to read your response and I understand the soap box. I read every response to anything that I type. I appreciate you responding. I also don't like throwing stones from a glass house. I don't know you personally therefore I can only reply in general. There are good kids and bad kids period. Two parents, one parents, foster parents, etc. People are who they are. If you are person or family that have multiple kids, you will admit that they are all different. There is no set guide or rules of engagement. You do the best you can and hope that it works in your favor. That being said, there are a lot of comments being made about a kid and his parents simply because he tossed a hat to the side. I personally don't care much about it as I know Universities that toss kids to the side for their benefit. Including Illinois and their football program over the years. It is what it is. People and organizations will have to live with their decisions. I just don't like taking things beyond the mistake. Just my opinion.
 
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I have to say this. Nevermind most of what I said about the kid, although I didn't say anything bad about him. I am sure he's fine. It is most likely all good. But, I know why he slipped. Think about it. He's a sophomore, right? What do you think is on his mind 95% of the time? YEAH, GIRLS!! LOL. That would mess anyone up. We all remember that.

I looked back on my sophomore year 50+ seasons ago. My sophomore year at Lockport was especially punishing. I had three female teachers who were absolutely smokin' hot. All in their mid to late 20s and if some of you remember, the skirts and dresses were especially short. Real nice wheels. One was an English teacher for the first semester. The second was an English teacher for the second semester. And the third was my Algebra teacher all year.

Ever hear the song "Hot For Teacher" by Van Halen? That was me and each one of them could have been in that video. All the guys talked about them. Talk about frustration. But I fixed that. (not how you think and get your mind out of the gutter, LOL) I dated a senior who "knew what she was doing." What's funny about it was when she met and got to know my mom. One day after she left my mom said to me, "I just love her. She is such a cute little girl." LOL. I really wanted to say, "mom if you knew what she was doing with your boy you might not feel the same way." LOL😄😄😄 That could have been a bad decision if precautions weren't taken.

So, I blame the girls. LOL I know he is surrounded by them.
THIS is more like it to me LOL.
 
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