7A and 8A final four predictions

[SiuCubFan8]

8A
LWE/LA
N Central/York
LA over N Central

7A
LWC/DGN
MC/SR
DGN over MC

 

[Alexander32]

Lots of bad conferences. Upstate Eight, MSL East, CSL North, Antioch's Conference and most of the Catholic League sans the Blue and Orange, Chicagoland Christian, just to name a few.

There are 21 large-school conferences. In making that statement, I defined a large-school conference as a conference that produced at least one 8A or 7A participant in this year's playoff brackets. I did refer to large-school conferences in my initial post, and no, sorry, the Chicagoland Christian Conference does not qualify as a large-school conference.

The list below ranks the conferences, using a rudimentary system, to provide some sense of how strong they are in playoff competition. They are ranked, in order, based on championships won during the last five playoff years; then semifinal appearances; and then the most recent appearance. Finally, those conferences having no semifinal appearances in the last five years were ranked based on their most recent appearance, if that appearance occurred in the last 25 years.

The CCL/ESCC was listed as one conference because the IHSA does not recognize each one of their individual divisions as a conference. The same is true for the new Southwest Valley Conference.

1. CCL/ESCC (11-29-2023) The conference has won 11 championships and made 29 semifinal appearances in the last five playoff years.
2. Fox Valley (3-5-2023) Their most recent semifinal appearance was in 2023.
3. Southwest Valley (2-5-2023)
4. Southwestern (2-4-2023)
5. DuKane (1-5-2023)

6. West Suburban Silver (0-4-2023) 8A appearance in 2023
7. North Suburban (0-4-2023) 6A appearance in 2023
8. Big Twelve (0-2-2023)
9. Mid-Illini (0-2-2023)
10. Central Suburban South (0-2-2021)
11. Mid-Suburban East (0-2-2021)

12. Mid-Suburban West (0-1-2023)
13. West Suburban Gold (0-1-2019)
14. NIC-10 (0-1-2019)
15. Western Big Six (0-1-2018)

16. Chicago Public League (2017)
17. Southwest Prairie West (2016)
18. Central Suburban North (2016)
19. Upstate Eight West (2008)
20. Upstate Eight East (1999)

21. Southwest Prairie East

I consider the top five conferences to be excellent large-school football conferences. Numbers 6 - 11 are good conferences. Numbers 12 - 15 are average conferences. [Barrington of the Mid-Suburban West Conference was an 8A semifinalist last year. Both Quincy of the Western Big Six Conference and Rockton Hononegah of the NIC-10 were 7A quarterfinalists last year.] Numbers 16 - 20 are below-average conferences; and the Southwest Prairie East Conference ranks last.

One might quibble to a small degree about some aspects of these rankings, but the list demonstrates why I consider the Southwest Prairie West Conference to be a below-average large-school football conference.

 

[PowerI66]

There are 21 large-school conferences. In making that statement, I defined a large-school conference as a conference that produced at least one 8A or 7A participant in this year's playoff brackets. I did refer to large-school conferences in my initial post, and no, sorry, the Chicagoland Christian Conference does not qualify as a large-school conference.

The list below ranks the conferences, using a rudimentary system, to provide some sense of how strong they are in playoff competition. They are ranked, in order, based on championships won during the last five playoff years; then semifinal appearances; and then the most recent appearance. Finally, those conferences having no semifinal appearances in the last five years were ranked based on their most recent appearance, if that appearance occurred in the last 25 years.

The CCL/ESCC was listed as one conference because the IHSA does not recognize each one of their individual divisions as a conference. The same is true for the new Southwest Valley Conference.

1. CCL/ESCC (11-29-2023) The conference has won 11 championships and made 29 semifinal appearances in the last five playoff years.
2. Fox Valley (3-5-2023) Their most recent semifinal appearance was in 2023.
3. Southwest Valley (2-5-2023)
4. Southwestern (2-4-2023)
5. DuKane (1-5-2023)

6. West Suburban Silver (0-4-2023) 8A appearance in 2023
7. North Suburban (0-4-2023) 6A appearance in 2023
8. Big Twelve (0-2-2023)
9. Mid-Illini (0-2-2023)
10. Central Suburban South (0-2-2021)
11. Mid-Suburban East (0-2-2021)

12. Mid-Suburban West (0-1-2023)
13. West Suburban Gold (0-1-2019)
14. NIC-10 (0-1-2019)
15. Western Big Six (0-1-2018)

16. Chicago Public League (2017)
17. Southwest Prairie West (2016)
18. Central Suburban North (2016)
19. Upstate Eight West (2008)
20. Upstate Eight East (1999)

21. Southwest Prairie East

I consider the top five conferences to be excellent large-school football conferences. Numbers 6 - 11 are good conferences. Numbers 12 - 15 are average conferences. [Barrington of the Mid-Suburban West Conference was an 8A semifinalist last year. Both Quincy of the Western Big Six Conference and Rockton Hononegah of the NIC-10 were 7A quarterfinalists last year.] Numbers 16 - 20 are below-average conferences; and the Southwest Prairie East Conference ranks last.

One might quibble to a small degree about some aspects of these rankings, but the list demonstrates why I consider the Southwest Prairie West Conference to be a below-average large-school football conference.

That's the problem with analytics, they often don't paint the full picture. you can have 1 good team in a garbage conference and it buoys the whole thing.

 

[JCHillmen]

That's the problem with analytics, they often don't paint the full picture. you can have 1 good team in a garbage conference and it buoys the whole thing.

True, but by virtue of having one big dog, that is still a better league than a league with a bunch of teams who never make the semifinals.

 

[prince_of_pilfer]

Everyone sleeping on the DuKane Conference I see.
Batavia- not as talented this year but will still cause problems for teams
St Charles North- Have won a couple they probably shouldn't have but their new backyard offense of letting Ethan Plumb carry you might be enough to put them in the semis

 

[ramblinman]

If that 7A prediction comes to fruition, we might see some sort of public/private debate develop.

We can only hope.

 

[Alexander32]

That's the problem with analytics, they often don't paint the full picture. you can have 1 good team in a garbage conference and it buoys the whole thing.

With the exception of the Southwestern Conference, all of the top 11 conferences had at least two teams reach the semifinals within the 2018 - 2023 timeframe. The Southwestern Conference missed the cut-off by one year, as Edwardsville was an 8A semifinalist in 2017. Edwardsville, of course, was also an 8A quarterfinalist just last year. They, Belleville East and O'Fallon provide ample depth (following East St. Louis) to justify the Southwestern Conference's ranking.