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618 (Southern Illinois) Talk: Round Two

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In Classes 5A and up, the 618 area code finished 6-0 last week. That was probably more wins than anyone counted on, but here we are. Southern Illinois picked up some wins from the small schools as well, like Althoff's 76-41 track meet with Tuscola. But let's move onto to who can win this week.
I'll post 1A-4A later today but here are previews for the bigger classes.

8A
#4 Edwardsville (9-1) vs #13 Glenbard West (8-2)
The Tigers defended their homefield 35-14 over West Aurora. While a 21 point is just fine, the Tigers had some real struggles pulling away. West Aurora held a 7-0 lead after one quarter and were still tied 7-7 at the break. In fact, 22 of Edwardsville's 35 points came in the final quarter. From what I saw, most of their problems were self inflicted (dropped passes, fumbles).
They will need to play much sharper this week or the fourth quarter will be too late against a tougher Glenbard West squad. Both schools have a common opponent in De Smet, who E-ville defeated 29-12 in week 9 and Glenbard West lost to 10-0 in week two. It does feel like a lot has changed since those games, with West improving and Edwardsville falling off the horse to some degree last week. This one can easily go either way, but I'll be an optimist and take the Tigers to advance off their home field advantage.
#11 Belleville East (8-2) at #6 Maine South (9-1)
The Lancers were a favorite over East Aurora last week but its doubtful even the Lancers expected a 70-0 blowout last week. Perhaps that will give them a little swagger headed into this Friday's trip to Maine South? The Hawks feel like the better team here but don't write off the Lancers entirely. Their best case scenario is turning this into a track meet. Belleville East also has a clutch gene, as shown in their last minute wins over O'Fallon and Collinsville. Whoever comes out of this one will have some nice momentum and an extra day of rest for quarters.
7A
#28 Collinsville (6-4) vs #12 Lincoln-Way West (8-2)
The Kahoks are the highest seed still playing in the state after a 20-15 win over 9-0 Maine West. That game had a bit of an odd ending, with Collinsville snatching what seemed to be a game-sealing interception up 20-13 late. However, the ball was spotted at the one yard line to set up a safety, but they ultimately survived the ensuing possession. The Kahoks produced a total of 5 turnovers in that victory.
Looking ahead to this week's foe, LWW, we do have Belleville East as a common opponent to call back on. Both lost, with Collinsville going down 24-21 and LWW losing 28-14. The Warriors' strength of schedule as a whole and record is more impressive, so bet on them. Collinsville has made a habit of playing postseason games close with everyone though.
6A
#4 East St. Louis (8-2) vs #5 Normal West (8-2)
The Flyers left no doubt against Lemont last week with a 61-0 demolition. Will Normal West fare any better? At first glance, the Wildcats have a knack for putting points up and that's the kind of offense it will take to knock off East Side. Normal West only played one team who is still alive in the postseason. That contest, a week 3 showdown with Normal, left them with a 43-0 loss. Flyer fans should be pretty confident this weekend as we seemingly march towards an East Side at Kankakee quarterfinal.
5A
#3 Highland (9-1) vs #6 Metamora (8-2)
After finding themselves in a 7-0 hole to Mt. Vernon after last week's first quarter, Highland scored 35 of the final 42 points and allowed a kick return for the lone exception. Their final score of 35-14 was the closest anyone has come to knocking off Highland since they lost 28-0 to Mahomet-Seymour in week 2. The Bulldogs also finished with 374 rushing yards, with 210 from Hunter Frey leading the effort.
Metamora presents an interesting week two matchup. These programs last met in 2016, when the Redbirds won 28-7 in the second round. This season, Metamora's most impressive results came from week 1's 28-17 win over Sterling and last week's 36-14 elimination of MacArthur. Focusing on last week's win over the Generals, MacArthur is known to have a solid rushing attack. Count on Highland as a mild favorite in this one, as long as they can get their passing attack rolling.
#13 Triad (7-3) vs #12 Joliet Catholic (7-3)
The Knights pulled an upset out last week over #3 Mahomet-Seymour last week in a 20-19 final. Can they pull a bigger upset out this weekend? Joliet Catholic certainly needs no introduction and they are coming off a big win of their own after knocking out Peoria 40-16 last week.
Triad does have some momentum coming in, having played their best two games over the last two weeks to the effect of 1 point wins. They've played a winning brand of football in those games with a balanced offense and turnover producing defense. It was also not that many years back when fellow MVC school Mascoutah shocked the state with a win over the Hilltoppers. Expect Joliet Catholic to advance but give Troy a puncher's chance to make something happen here.
 
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Here's the lower class games. Most of these teams are harder to find info on, so they are a little less in depth.
Class 4A
#4 Breese Central (8-2) vs #5 Mt. Zion (8-2)
Most people believed that Cahokia would take down Breese last week but with a 19-2 victory, the Cougars are still dancing. If you think that score is weird, Mt. Zion won 21-2 last week. When comparing these teams we are provided with a usual set of scores against Breese Mater Dei. Mt. Zion pummeled the Mater Dei 41-6 and Central stole a 17-14 win over them. Of course, the Breese schools are rivals so their score is less reliable. Mt. Zion is probably in the range of a ten point favorite.
#2 Murphysboro (9-1) vs #7 Charleston (8-2)
We nearly had a 618 vs 618 matchup here before Charleston eliminated Freeburg 27-24 with a field goal in OT. Murphysboro should be able to avenge their fellow 618 school if they keep playing at the level they've done throughout the year. The Red Devils actually have a very reasonable path to the semis ahead of them and they will be worth keeping an eye on.
#11 Harrisburg (7-3) vs #14 Peoria Notre Dame (6-4)
Harrisburg knocked down conference foe Carterville 23-12 to keep rolling along. The big story in this week's matchup is the travel distance. This game is scheduled for 5 pm Saturday and the two schools are 4 1/2 hours away. Assuming PND doesn't drive down the night before, that means they will have to leave well before noon. The Irish are probably the better team in this one but I do not see them over coming the massive homefield advantage for the Bulldogs.
Class 3A
#1 DuQuoin (10-0) at #9 Tolono Unity (8-2)
4A Murphysboro and Harrisburg both look like favorites this week but have one thing in common: they both lost to conference opponent DuQuoin. While the Indians are deserving of some hype, they find themselves against a historically strong Rocket lineup. Unity's head coach, Scott Hamilton, has qualified his team for 28/29 postseasons since he's been around and made 6 state championship appearances. This one feels like it could go either way (just look at Massey having DuQuoin +18 and Calpreps having DuQuoin -13). Call this one a toss up but give Unity the edge for having been there before and DuQoin having a 3 hour bus ride.
#4 Mt. Carmel (9-1) vs #5 Sullivan (9-1)
Having a quick look at schedules, Mt. Carmel has battled through a much tougher schedule. The computers agree and give the Aces a 95%+ to win here.
#2 Greenville (10-0) vs #7 Olympia (8-2)
Greenville has yet to lose this year. Can the Spartans do something about it? Allow us to examine how each team fared against the Litchfield Panthers. Olympia squeezed by them 20-17 last week, whereas the Comets rolled by them 34-20 in week 4. Greenville should take this one
#3 Roxana (10-0) vs #6 Ogden (8-2)
The Roxana Shells are averaging 46.6 PPG while allowing just 12.5 PPG. Ogden has the look of a team that will hurt both of their averages. The Spartans have played a much tougher schedule and have benefited from 3 one possession games this season compared to Roxana's closest margin of 24. Of course, playing close games does not make you a better team but having that experience matters when push comes to shove. Roxana gets the nod in this one but a strong start may be needed to move to 11-0.
Class 2A
#8 Nashville (7-3) at #16 Quincy Notre Dame (5-5)
Like several other 4-5 teams, QND took full advantage of their at large berth last week. It's very challenging to get a good read on the Raiders who have played several non-Illinois squads. Of their Illinois games, they've all came against quality programs in higher classes or bad lower class teams to expected results. With that said, take Nashville to continue doing what they do best and win postseason games.
#5 Red Bud (8-2) at #4 Athens (8-2)
Red Bud's victory last week is exactly what people dream of when they think of small school football. They squared off against rival Chester in a rainy mess, and scored the lone points of the game with 28.7 seconds remaining. While that win was a great story, the odds for a win look a lot lower this week against a strong Athens program.
#10 Vandalia (7-3) vs #3 Shelbyville (9-1)
The Shelbyville Rams have played a tougher schedule and produced better results, so they should add a road postseason win to their resume.
#3 Johnston City (9-1) at #11 Breese Mater Dei (7-3)
Over their last 40 games, Johnston City has lost just 4 games. The Indians' only defeat this season was a 30-28 setback to 10-0 Sesser-Valier. Mater Dei's losses are respectable as well, but my 1st grade teacher did teach me that 3 is more than 1. JC is the team to beat in this one.
Class 1A
#4 Althoff (9-1) vs #5 LeRoy (9-1)
Tuscola became the first 1A team to play Althoff last week in a 76-41 beat down. The Crusaders rushed for 571 yards without their best running back in that win. LeRoy can put up some points as well, so they may turn this one into a track meet as well. Even then, Althoff is still a huge favorite.
#2 Sesser-Valier (10-0) vs #7 Salt Fork (8-2)
Both of these teams are a little out of my depth but momentum is not. SV has a lot rolling in their direction and I think it keeps them rolling into the quarterfinals.
 
Althoff did play 2nd Team D to give up many of those points.
They also started the game with 2 new kids playing in the D-backfield, and a third joined them at the end of the second when their best cover man went down with an injury. Don't think it's anything serious, but the were up by 5 touchdowns already, and think they held him out as a precaution. Should have full compliment of players on D this week.
 
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Could Batavia beat ESL? Unlikely. Could Batavia come within three points of beating Loyola? Doubtful.
ESL 6A. Loyola 8A. Here we go with the scenarios that will never happen. Sounds like someone is sweating Batavia and you should be 😂
 
Ten Survivors from the 618 among the 64 remaining.
  • Althoff
  • Breese Central
  • East Side
  • Edwardsville
  • Highland
  • Mater Dei
  • Murphysboro
  • Harrisburg
  • Nashville
  • Roxana
Sesser-Valier and Mt. Carmel are also still playing out in the southeastern corner of the state.

The only games to be played in the 618 this week are
1A #3 Greenfield at #2 Sesser-Valier
2A #4 Athens at #8 Nashville
4A #2 Murphysboro at #11 Harrisburg
 
Not sure how that is relevant as neither of those teams will face Batavia in the 7a playoffs.
If a>b and b>c, then a>c. The well-known transitive property applies more consistently to math than to football, but if you don't have anything else, then you're just guessing.
 
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If a>b and b>c, then a>c. The well-known transitive property applies more consistently to math than to football, but if you don't have anything else, then you're just guessing.
Except we do, Batavia will have an opportunity to play MC for the 7a title. No need go look for common opponents when the teams in question will meet on the field.
 
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