ramblinman said:

Ask him how ironic it is that arguably the best QB in the state transferred to his school in the middle of last year.

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I’m sure the coaches were surprised and delighted when the bus dropped him off. That’s the life of a public coach but sometimes the bus pays out big time.

I have not checked the rosters but I know Cam Williams is a freshman WR from Glenbard South on ND but I don't think he is getting playing time yet.

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Any IHSA guys at Indiana?

stripes13 said:

Yeah that was nuts.

All I’m saying is this: Ryan Poles gave Nate Davis a bag of money and he was run out of town for his effort. Poles gave Kmet a bag of money and it’s been dropped passed, offensive pass interference calls, missed blocks that have led to turnovers.

He shouldn’t get a pass because he’s from Arlington Heights.

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DJ Moore has been brutal too since getting his money.

Kmet seems so out of character these past few weeks. Wonder what the deal is.

SiuCubFan8 said:

1-32 helps and is easy to do.

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It might help a little. But as long as seeding is objective W-L and PP, 1-32 necessarily going to do better. If you don't do subjective seeding or an objective way to truely weight SoS, it will be subject to a lot of random variance.

Like in 5A, the north had obviously been stronger than south, but the state finals matchups were all arguably featuring 1 v 2 in that year each of the past 3 (2023 is the one you can somewhat argue, IMO, but I think it ultimately was the two best still, despite the score margin not showing it).

daveje said:

Why is it ironic? Where is the irony here?

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Ask him how ironic it is that arguably the best QB in the state transferred to his school in the middle of last year.

cpacmel said:

He's a great coach. Offense especially.

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He sure is.

I’d assume he only wants a HC position. Hope he gets one.

Geneseo Football said:

1-32 seeding accomplishes nothing in 1-5A where majority of the issues are. Separating them is the only way to get rid of the issue.

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Hey, I'm all for separation. I'm the give me the NIPL guy. I know my reasons why I want to suck up to it, but I think yours may be off the mark.

The majority of the issues are in 1A-5A? Really?

Prior to two weekends ago, the 1A title was won by public schools the previous 17 straight times. During that streak, a private school made it to the title game just once where they were trounced 35-7 by the public school. Exactly what "issue" do you think you are getting rid of in 1A through separation? Is your issue with Althoff breaking the streak? The same Althoff that a public school beat by 20 in last year's 1A quarters? The same Althoff that failed to qualify for three straight playoffs not too long ago?

2A? Over the past ten 2A title games, there have been a total of 17 public school finalists that have won seven out of the ten titles. And your "issue" there is...???

In 4A, do you recall a public school by the name of Rochester? Remember when they dispatched your school in the 4A title game back in 2013 for their fourth out of what turned out to be five consecutive 4A titles? Did you not have an "issue" with that level of dominance? Rochester has won eight 4A titles and one 5A title since 2010. During that time, they have compiled a record of 17-5 against private schools and have beaten them in four title games (including a 5A game against St Rita, and a 4A title game against St. Laurence just last year). Looks more to me like the private schools should be the ones having an "issue" with Rochester.

I'm all ears about how you think separation would get rid of the awful, heinous "issues" facing public schools in those classes.

corey90 said:

Its ironic that teams like LA have these huge players on the entire team.

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Why is it ironic? Where is the irony here?

Geneseo Football said:

1-32 seeding accomplishes nothing in 1-5A where majority of the issues are. Separating them is the only way to get rid of the issue.

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1-32 helps and is easy to do.

stripes13 said:

Dropped TD today, OPI’s on Thanksgiving, missed blocks against the Packers - he’s been a major disappointment this season.

Good thing he’s podcasting though.

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He’s had some rough games and also was seemingly not part of the plan for some games. Been weird season for him.

corey90 said:

Unfortunately you pay taxes for the school district you’re in weather you want to or not. This is something that will not change IMO. Especially for HS football.

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Everyone pays taxes whether they want to or not. Why try to punish the public school?

Welp I was wrong about them having a shot to beat SF….yikes.

jwarigaku said:

To both of you,

There is no need to be a “star” or exemplary student/academic to be admitted to a quality school. They might not get into St Igs, or Whitney, or Benet, or New Trier, but there would certainly be space for them in a CP program. Back in the 80s it was common for kids to spend have a day at the Vocational school and have a day at the CP school and then transitioned either way after their Sophomore year. There is a way to make school more competitive with each other to breed quality at all schools but at the moment the system caters to teaching to the lowest common demonator rather than try to enrich the academics and the trades. You both seem to argue that the trades are for the cast off kids that don’t make the cut. I don’t believe that those students are any less worthy than the college bound students and should be just as praised for their successes. Everyone has their talent it’s just finding their individual rough gem and polishing it to the beautiful sparkling Diamond that it truly can become.

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I don't think either of us is arguing that the trades are for the cast off kids. What you are arguing for is what the current system is set up to do.
Our public education system wasn’t created to provide the highest level of academic achievement for every student, but rather to ensure that every student gets a basic education. The main goal is to teach the essential skills like reading, writing, basic math, and science. This helps students become responsible citizens and prepares them to be part of the workforce.
For students who are ready for more challenging academics, there are honors and AP courses. These classes offer harder content and help students get ready for college or specialized careers.
The main purpose of public schools is to make sure all students, no matter their background, have access to the basic knowledge they need to succeed in life.
A strong public education system is crucial for creating a capable workforce, which is important for the economy. Without it, we could end up with more low-skilled jobs (front-end manufacturing), which would hurt middle and lower-class families. Public education provides everyone with a basic level of knowledge that helps them succeed in the world, regardless of their family’s income.
In this way, public education helps make sure everyone has at least a basic understanding of important skills, helping to keep our economy strong and our society fair.

Wassup13 said:

Do you think the bracket is top heavy?

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No doubt. 12 was always going to be too many. In this bracket, I would say exactly half the teams have any realistic chance to win 3 or 4 in a row and win the title. The other half of the bracket would need some kind of miracle to run off that many wins in a row. The two ACC teams, Boise, ASU, Indiana, and probably Tennessee just flat out are not winning the title.

4-8 was always the magic number. ACC getting two teams is dumb and only happened because they put out weekly rankings and backed themselves into a corner by not being able to punish SMU after losing their bonus game.

SEC going to continue to be big mad as they get fewer teams than they feel they deserve. It's somewhere between 2 and 6 years until the Big Ten and SEC break away and form their own playoff. They have the most eyeballs and revenue and right now they are playing nice in trying to give off the appearance of a legitimate playoff. They will either have written into bylaws that they each get four qualifiers or they will just break away and form their own combined playoff.

corey90 said:

It doesn’t matter if they are not breaking any current rules it’s still not a level playing field. Its ironic that teams like LA have these huge players on the entire team. Do you think these guys just walked through the doors one day and said hi I am here. Public schools get what they get in there district. Some of the kids in there district go to privates. I know Privates have to recruit to keep the doors open but don’t think for a minute many of those football players aren’t hand picked. I have witnessed private coaches at you games and talk to the entire team and then talk one on one with some of the best players.
Ramblinman I really don’t care. Understand both sides but you act like everyone on here is trying to pick on the privates. I and others are just trying to make things better for the entire state. Public or private,

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So glad you are on board with making things better for both public and private. Me too. Been doing it here for YEARS with my annual rant about playoff blowouts.

Have you noticed that I haven't posted it this year? Two reasons for that. The first is that I don't feel it's needed. There has been lots of good discussion here basically acknowledging what I have been saying all along, which is that the system is flawed. The second is that, frankly, I got bored with it.

That said, however, the FIXES for the system should not be discriminatory. Fix classification in a way that is fair for all. You wanna apply a success factor or football enrollment? Knock yourself out as long as they are equally applicable to both public and private schools. You want to develop a classification formula like @stonedlizard has offered? Go for it because it treats private and public schools equally. 1-32 seeding in one bracket is an easy fix, but only if the IHSA grows some stones so it doesn't pander to geographic representation.

Like most Catholic HS closings Weber closed because of changing demographics. Weber got many of their students from the West side and directly East of its location. I lived one block from Pats and 1 1/2 mile from Weber. Only 1 person I know went to Weber. I knew of no one who went to Gordan.

Pats used to get loads of students from the far NW side, Tarcisius, IC and Juliana, those days are gone and most of those kids go to ND. Students from several miles East of Pats, who couldn't get into Ignatius or LA, and might have gone to Pats, now have the choice to go to DePaul.

UlbKA91 said:

Was Weber closed already or just had less appeal? Sounds like there were a lot more options closer to where Weber alums might have moved, extending out to Driscoll, Viator and IC.

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I graduated grade school in June of 2001, so Weber was closed by then. However I do recall playing AAU basketball at Weber in like 3rd or 4th grade. I'm sure it was an option being that was located near Fullerton and Laramie it could have been a viable option.