Upcoming IHSA lawsuit

[sporthog9er]

For those keeping tabs. Article on upcoming lawsuit vs IHSA to be filed later today. Can read some emails from gov office to Andersen and Andersen quotes on legality and enforcement.

https://edgarcountywatchdogs.com/20...f-policing-individual-schools-for-violations/

 

[DocOC23]

Wow...living in some strange times for sure.

 

[LovetheDrake2]

If they cancel the season for High School football in IL there will be hundreds (maybe thousands) of lawsuits. Especially if Indiana, Iowa, and Wisconsin play football as expected. Parents will be in an uproar and sue the Gov office, IHSA, and IPHD. Hope we don't get to that point, just let the boys play and then make any decisions based on what happens during the season

 

[McCaravan]

If they cancel the season for High School football in IL there will be hundreds (maybe thousands) of lawsuits. Especially if Indiana, Iowa, and Wisconsin play football as expected. Parents will be in an uproar and sue the Gov office, IHSA, and IPHD. Hope we don't get to that point, just let the boys play and then make any decisions based on what happens during the season

Exactly. I said in a another thread if they want to avoid legal action, let the season, if there are HEAVY outbreaks then you can shut it down and say you tried....even “We told you so” and lawsuits will not occur. Expect a some spurartic cases, I’m talking heavy outbreaks.

 

[greatgig13]

Wow...living in some strange times for sure.

Hey, lawsuits are American as hot dogs and apple pie.

 

[caravan8]

Honest question...If they start the season and we see outbreaks, does it leave the IHSA/Schools open to lawsuits?

 

[brucealmighy]

If the IHSA or a high school does not want to offer football, how can a lawsuit force them to provide that program? Unfortunately football is the only sport without a club alternative. The rest of the athletes will be able to compete at the club level of IHSA is shutdown as they have been doing the last 2 months. A lot of those organizations are for profit and will gladly add a season for the fall.

 

[sporthog9er]

Honest question...If they start the season and we see outbreaks, does it leave the IHSA/Schools open to lawsuits?

No because it's impossible to prove you got a viral infection from an exact person, location, date and time. If it was then we would have seen plenty for the flu and others.

 

[Hillini74]

For those keeping tabs. Article on upcoming lawsuit vs IHSA to be filed later today. Can read some emails from gov office to Andersen and Andersen quotes on legality and enforcement.

https://edgarcountywatchdogs.com/20...f-policing-individual-schools-for-violations/

What coach is going to publicly go against the IHSA guidelines? What school district is going to empower them to do so and not reprimand them? Enforceable or not at the state level, they sure as hell are enforceable to district employees at the local level. Maybe it's time for coaches to sit this one out until politicians and lawyers can figure it out in a courtroom? But they won't, they care too much about student-athletes. So they will continue to find effective ways to train their kids under the guidelines offered by the organization they choose to be members of, the IHSA under the authority of the local school district.

 

[sporthog9er]

What coach is going to publicly go against the IHSA guidelines? What school district is going to empower them to do so and not reprimand them? Enforceable or not at the state level, they sure as hell are enforceable to district employees at the local level. Maybe it's time for coaches to sit this one out until politicians and lawyers can figure it out in a courtroom? But they won't, they care too much about student-athletes. So they will continue to find effective ways to train their kids under the guidelines offered by the organization they choose to be members of, the IHSA under the authority of the local school district.

Yea agree...never said anybody would publicly go against them. Just providing the link and documents for those that want to follow the story.

 

[PanthersWildcats86]

Here's a possible, although unpleasant, potential solution. The IHSA washes their hands of the problem and the questions of regional outbreaks, etc. like the big universities. They declare that it is impossible to come up with a standard rule to apply equally to Scott County with no cases and Cook County which continues to grow rapidly. So, the IHSA cancels the playoffs before the season even starts, and throws the season to the schools and conferences. The reasoning is that without the playoffs, schools can focus on what is best for their students locally without the concern of what it would do for playoff eligibility. If Mayor Lightfoot gets huffy and declares no sports, it only affects the schools in the city and the IHSA doesn't have to figure out how to get sub-500 teams into the playoffs...If a school has an outbreak, there is no pressure on the opponent to put its team on the field and endanger them that week for playoff points...And it avoids a possible situation where in the playoffs Winchester plays a public league team in Chicago and the team is exposed on a trip they otherwise would likely never make.

 

[footballfan 44]

What coach is going to publicly go against the IHSA guidelines? What school district is going to empower them to do so and not reprimand them? Enforceable or not at the state level, they sure as hell are enforceable to district employees at the local level. Maybe it's time for coaches to sit this one out until politicians and lawyers can figure it out in a courtroom? But they won't, they care too much about student-athletes. So they will continue to find effective ways to train their kids under the guidelines offered by the organization they choose to be members of, the IHSA under the authority of the local school district.

Well said. The IHSA guidelines are one thing- districts then have the option to enforce more restrictions. A few districts have suspended camps for this week and others have the guys practicing with restrictions more than the guidelines. It is day to day as to what we are able to do at practice.

 

[McCaravan]

No because it's impossible to prove you got a viral infection from an exact person, location, date and time. If it was then we would have seen plenty for the flu and others.

Exactly

 

[McCaravan]

Here's a possible, although unpleasant, potential solution. The IHSA washes their hands of the problem and the questions of regional outbreaks, etc. like the big universities. They declare that it is impossible to come up with a standard rule to apply equally to Scott County with no cases and Cook County which continues to grow rapidly. So, the IHSA cancels the playoffs before the season even starts, and throws the season to the schools and conferences. The reasoning is that without the playoffs, schools can focus on what is best for their students locally without the concern of what it would do for playoff eligibility. If Mayor Lightfoot gets huffy and declares no sports, it only affects the schools in the city and the IHSA doesn't have to figure out how to get sub-500 teams into the playoffs...If a school has an outbreak, there is no pressure on the opponent to put its team on the field and endanger them that week for playoff points...And it avoids a possible situation where in the playoffs Winchester plays a public league team in Chicago and the team is exposed on a trip they otherwise would likely never make.

I put up a thread a few weeks ago that suggested we scrap the state playoffs and play for Conference Champions. It sucks but it beats the alternative.

 

[saints78]

Nobody sued in the Spring when all sports were cancelled why does football think they are so entitled.

 

[McCaravan]

Nobody sued in the Spring when all sports were cancelled why does football think they are so entitled.

Because it was so out of nowhere and all of a sudden, nobody knew then how this was going to spread and effect teenagers...it was a panic move in sorts....but they have had time to research this now and see the stats on how it’s been effecting teenagers and have had time to place necessary safety measures in place that they didn’t have time to do in the spring.

 

[CaravanMan]

Are there public stats available in regards to how mental health has been affected during this pandemic/shut down/quarantine? I've seen some in regards to divorce rate and physical abuse but I'm curious to things like how much prescription drug usage has went up, doctor visits, etc. I'm trying to understand the affect this has had on those from say junior high and up.

 

[gobucsgo]

The lawsuit will not bear any fruit.

The judge will pick a winning side.
The losing side will appeal.
Then there will be another hearing.
Those judge will decide who wins.
The losing side will appeal.
This lawsuit will take forever.

 

[McCaravan]

The lawsuit will not bear any fruit.

The judge will pick a winning side.
The losing side will appeal.
Then there will be another hearing.
Those judge will decide who wins.
The losing side will appeal.
This lawsuit will take forever.

This isn't a murder case, nobody is going to jail here, if the judge rules we can play the losing side won't appeal, they'll be like "Fine, it's on you now Judge, play ball"