What if that's not an option? Do you want the best officials doing the title games or do you value diversity more? What if a more diverse crew wasn't the top rated crew throughout the year? Should they be given the title game due to diversity over a more deserving crew who graded higher throughout the year?
Do these zebras have white or black stripes was the first thing that went through my head too.
In cases like this, diversity would likely yield the best results.
It’s called discipline and coaching, you don’t have to stare down players every time you make a tackle or players and coaches jumping on the field. Alex Prio was dragged down from the waist down 2-3 steps out of bounds. You start getting targeted once refs know you do it a lot.
He probably started the season at 225, who knows what he weighs now. I saw a picture of him with a boot on his foot, so that may delay the start of his wrestling season, but I believes he wrestles HW, so he doesn't need to cut.
I haven't and I do understand what you're trying to say but in my opinion the highest rated officials should do the title games. Using the knowledge Newt has provided what if a more diverse official was the back judge on the spot of the ball play, he would not have been the ref spotting the ball and would have never overruled the linesman who spotted the ball. So it wouldn't have mattered in that situation.
So you know they called a horse collar on that play right. So in your mind we play 9+ games a year and we the only undisciplined team. So cg players cheap shots are not a discipline issue. If you believe that narrative you part of the issue
So…….. that means that it’s impossible for them to have a natural bias??? What are you saying?
I'm suggesting there is nothing nefarious about who gets what assignments.
Why are you on this thread??? No one mentioned 2021. Go away. You’re trying to push a narrative that just isn’t there.
I am glad you typed this. The call on the field for the EXACT play you are talking about was horse collar tackle yet, your description is dragged down by the waist. This is the stuff that is being discussed. If it was ruled a late hit out of bounds, there is nothing to question as you couldn't see it from the other side of the field. It definitely wasn't a horse collar tackle. This is why comments are made. Next, there wasn't one unsportsmanlike penalty thrown during the game and if you think that CG players was talking smack on the field, you are sadly mistaken. Please stop with yet another narrative about ESL that is untrue.
We are not speaking on cheating for CG or any other team. We are talking the simple bias that exists in society being brought to the field. Not one person from ESL thinks that CG had anything to do with the official assignment. As stated before, the week before was 20 times worse. In the championship game, CG had 2 penalties for 20 yards and ESL had 7 for 45 yards. There wasn't a lot of penalties on both sides of the ball.
If the worst mistake by another person this young man experiences is this, then he’ll have had a pretty great life. Part of the benefit of athletics is how to deal with adversity, especially when it’s out of your own control. So while it sucks, the reality is it was a mistake that may or may not have cost him a game. Not to diminish the hard work he put in or how much that meant to him, but in perspective there are kids out there losing loved ones everyday due to the mistakes of others. I feel for him, and as a ref I wish they would have nailed it, but there are many lessons he will be taught from this, at an overall not life changing expense. Maybe he’ll be inspired to become a really great official, we could use him
Oh, I understand what's being conveyed, what I said was I didn't see it as a logical application
He'll be fine. He's a very bright young man. The point is why must he and his team be continously asked to get over bad calls. This is not the first or last time that they will be asked to shrug off being unfairly treated. I'd say a couple of bad calls is unfortunate but a pattern of bad calls is unfair. Then to be told suck it up and/or yall brought it on yourself is a BRUTAL mentality
How so? When you play a ball control team, possessions are limited. When you make mistakes or have penalties that extend drives/possessions for said team its becomes more costly. Average possessions per game is probably 12-14. When playing CG they may have had half of that.
Your perception is your reality. If you have the perception that it’s always against you, then the first thing that happens will confirm that narrative for you. ESL has been an unbelievablely successful program, im sure in their runs they’ve benefited from calls as well. Other schools have gotten the short end of the stick as well. It sucks. No one can change your perception or your experience. I’m just trying to give you some neutral perspective man. I’m sorry high school officiating doesn’t meet your standard There are a lot of other schools and fans that feel the same way.
Thanks. If it were just me I would say I'm totally tripping. But I've been I situations were the other fans be like dam they f yall. It's not a one off bro. It's the norm. I feel our kids deserve a fair playing field.
Correct. The DB (Smilie) made a big hit on the final drive and had to stare down the opposing player. Nobody stared him down when he had to get carried off the field a few plays later. Sorry if poor sportsmanship doesn’t get you any sympathy.
What about the phantom hold against Cary on yet another drive or the phantom penalty against Cary on the kickoff return? Would that qualify as nefarious? Or does nefarious work only in one direction?
To be clear I NEVER said any calls would change the outcome of the game. I will take it a step further, I haven't seen anyone suggest that any specific calls would change the outcome of who won or loss. The one statement I did see was someone emotionally suggested that some people were okay with winning that way. Outside of that I haven't seen a poster say this is the reason ESL loss. Losing the QB had the biggest impact on the game if you want to get technical.
Smiley was staring at Sunkett. The player was on the ground and he was looking straight ahead.
So are you suggesting that CG corner didn't stare down #3 on the screen play after he made a big hit? Stop with the stupid narrative on ONLY ESL playing with passion. This is the BS that we are talking about. This is why things go left!
Sunkett was clearly behind smily, he came from behind to pull him…
If you look at esl youtube videos, they’re always getting into with the opponents, esl is doing that to themselves, that’s on the coaches for allowing that, that just goes why they get flagged a lot because the refs notice that. Cmon dude be for real.
Then why is he looking at the ground and why did Sunkett pull him away? You can rewatch it, it’s at 2:28 on the NFHS broadcast.
