Palatine 30 , Barrington 24 - FINAL
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That's what I was told by the sideline official
I don’t disagree not sure about LWE having a QB go down before championship game. It seemed to me they were making excuses. Injuries happen in football next man up. Yes I know it’s tough when it’s your QB.
If you watch back the stream that isn’t what happened. That’s what made it so confusing
I get it. I originally put on my chart that it was 4th and forever. Then, they moved the sticks.
Just saying what the official told me.
Actually that 2015 Semifinal between Loyola and Palatine is a great example of "any given day anything can happen". Should Palatine have come within a field goal of Loyola normally? No way. But, it was an insane day weatherwise and that turned out to be the great equalizer. The game was supposed to be a 1pm kickoff, but was delayed until 7pm (and really started later than that) because of an insane snowstorm. The week before Palatine beat Brother Rice at home, and it was a beautiful fall Saturday afternoon. Only needed a light jacket. By the time the Loyola game kicked off - same spot just a week later - there were mounds of snow piled feet high around the field. See the YouTube link below. But "that's why they play the games", because on paper there's no way , but on field turf there's sometimes a way.
Was it? I guess I'm having a Mandella effect moment. I'll need to ask my son if he recalls.
But it looks like Palatine and Barrington will meet in second round…Hopefully Palatine’s quarterback is healthy for the game. But hey, Palatine defense can still ball out even without him. They’re awesome. That should be a big game.
I would appreciate, however, Palatine fans don’t muddy up the stream screaming at the officials. It’s OK to be upset, but screaming you guys are idiots and using profanity was a bit much during the timeout fiasco. People need to realize these officials are paid about $100 per varsity game and that is before they are taxed. Yes, the schools send them a 1099. Usually they’re traveling an hour to get to the game. There is a huge shortage of officials. If you saw the way the Palatine fans were screaming at them, you know why there is a shortage. Very little money, time away from your family, and a thankless job. Even in the Chicago Catholic league, we are only a few injuries away from not having enough officials to cover the games.
I just think telling an Official (who is doing a public service) that he is an idiot and to go back to Barrington it’s a bit much. I promise you anyone classless enough to scream like that would do a terrible job at being an official because they have no levelheadedness about them. Not singling out palatine, I’m sure fans of many schools would have reacted like that. I just think people need to realize how little these guys are making to spend their Friday night away from their family to get yelled at.
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I appreciate the sentiment of this and largely agree. However, Barrington parents and many others do the exact same thing. Let's not throw stones in glass houses
I made this exact point in my post. Not singling out Palatine. Lots of schools do it. I grew up in Barrington, but spent a lot of time in the surrounding suburbs. I consider our little area of the northwest suburbs my home. I have spent more money at JL’s Pizza than everyone on this board combined. Would never throw stones at Palatine. Was just making an underlying point as a fellow official. We constantly take verbal abuse. And you’re sitting there thinking OK I drove an hour and a half to get to your kids football game, there’s a shortage of officials, I’m going to net about $60 after this and I get home late to my family. We are literally only a few officials quitting away from these kids not being able to play. Or having to play varsity games/underclass games mid week.
I don’t think people understand how dire it is. We get high priority emails every single Friday saying please help officials needed for tonight’s game. Not to mention a lot of these officials are cops and firefighters, and many also umpire the kids baseball games and officiate their basketball games, pop warner etc.
I promise you when those officials watched that game back during their post game beer together they were sick about some of the mistakes.
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I really feel for the Refs/Officials. They truly are not paid enough. This is something that needs to change. We fans like watching the games but if something doesn’t change we won’t have any officials. Very sad. Yes officials make mistakes it’s bound to happen but for the most part they do a good job. I wonder what other states pay officials? Netting $60 bucks doesn’t seem worth it. IMHO
Our fans can sometimes be harsh, I will admit. The kids who announce on the stream sit right in front of the press box, and in the center of the stands in front of them is alot of the parents, who are the most passionate - good or bad - usually. As a Palatine fan I can say we've " had a mad on" for the refs since the SCN game. On the final drive of that game Jaylen Williams stripped Plumb of the ball on a sack and Palatine recovered. The refs ruled he was throwing a pass and gave the ball back to SCN and they scored and won. So alot of the talk yesterday about "if Palatine had beat SCN they'd be the #1 seed " just brings it back to the surface. I can say it's not just us though, at road games we hear the same and I've been harassed in the parking lot - win or lose. No one seems to heed the pregame announcement about "verbal indignities".
In the Catholic league, they got a little pay raise this year so it’s 125 for varsity games and 83 for underclass games. But that is before taxes. Public/suburbs I believe it is closer to 100 for varsity games and 59 for underclass games, pretax.
Imagine working a freshman or sophomore game and knowing you’re netting about $33 to drive an hour at 8 AM on Saturday to get yelled at, or leaving work early to get yelled at on a Friday night. No wonder nobody wants to do it. And like I said, we’re dangerously close to games being canceled because of the shortage.
We’ve got officials from hours away driving up here to cover some of our games so the kids can play, and they get here and they’ve got someone’s mom yelling at them in the stands. It really is quite preposterous when you think about it like that.
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If it paid better they would have more officials . You know the old saying money talks and bullshit walks. It doesn’t mean the parents would stop there crap but at least they would be compensated better. It also doesn’t mean they would stay. Just saying after taxes it’s just not worth the aggravation.
OK, but if they choose to do it, they need to do it competently.
From Palatine's point of view they cost us 14 points in that game. They got a fourth time out at the end of the first half - the Pirates had stopped the RB at the one yard line and the half should have been over. Barrington then scores after a lengthy delay.
Then Barrington fumbles on an inside handoff, our guy runs it back to inside the 5 yard line, and they call it an incomplete pass because he was handing it off forward. Palatine definitely would scored there.
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Were you one of the guys screaming on the stream? Lol
The fumble you reference was not a fumble it was a forward pass.
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The fumble was pretty clearly a forward pass. The fact they let you run it all the way back for a touchdown and then brought it back was crazy though. You would’ve thought it got reviewed the way they officiated that play
It was a little forward toss not a handoff. I had to watch a few times because I thought it was a handoff at first glance. It was one of many calls that made me rewind the stream to figure out what happened. This was one of the few they actually got right
It was definitely a forward pass. Should have been blown dead however. It just looked bad. But sometimes the officials will let it go, then discuss if anyone saw a forward pass. The linesman that saw the forward pass should have blown it dead right away though. They got it right and that is most important.
I am also confused about this timeout fiasco at the end of the half. Maybe a timeout was incorrectly announced for Barrington earlier in the half and that was the confusion? Maybe they had one left. Because the Palatine coaches did not seem to be arguing or as upset as everyone else?
