MMXXIV Edition - CCL-ESCC Predictions Week XIII

[ignazio]

A special thanks to the greatest fans in high school football:
@k1867 @3OrangeWhips @refref01 @tuccs @BillyTheBuffoon @pjjp @80sRambler @MsDavis10 @Stella5 @BornNRazed @ESCC fan @RockSoup @stl705 @BoundaryCorner @McCaravan @ChicagoRambler @SiuCubFan8 @DMurph11 @Crusaderfan19 @K3D88 @RameyJacoby
Once again, you've all made this a memorable and interesting season. Watching the LA-MS game last Saturday, beautiful late fall day, two rivals, excitement - I could not imagine being anywhere else. Cheers to all our teams and followers!

Notre Dame (Niles, IL) at St. Ignatius (Chicago, IL) Fri., Nov. 22, 7:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: St. Ignatius (Chicago, IL) 27 (81%), [2024] Notre Dame (Niles, IL) 13 (19%)]

Wilmington (12-0) at Lombard (Montini) (10-2), Sat., Nov. 23, 1:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: Wilmington (IL) 20 (58%) Montini Catholic (Lombard, IL) 17 (42%)]

Chicago (DePaul) (9-3) at Coal City (10-2), Sat., Nov. 23, 1:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: Coal City (IL) 28 (60%) DePaul College Prep (Chicago, IL) 24 (40%)]

Wheaton (St. Francis) (10-2) at LaGrange Park (Nazareth Academy) (10-2), Sat., Nov. 23, 1:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: Nazareth Academy (LaGrange Park, IL) 35 (80%) St. Francis (Wheaton, IL) 22 (20%)]

Morris (8-4) at Joliet (Catholic Academy) (9-3), Sat., Nov. 23, 2:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: Joliet Catholic Academy (Joliet, IL) 42 (98%) Morris (IL) 7 (2%)]

Chicago (Mt. Carmel) (9-3) at Chicago (St. Rita) (10-2), Sat., Nov. 23, 3:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: #174 Mount Carmel (Chicago, IL) 31 (74%) St. Rita (Chicago, IL) 21 (26%)]

Wilmette (Loyola Academy) (10-2) at Frankfort (Lincoln-Way East) (12-0), Sat., Nov. 23, 6:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: Lincoln-Way East (Frankfort, IL) 26 (65%) Loyola Academy (Wilmette, IL) 19 (35%)]

 

[DMurph11]

I’m going for redemption this weekend…thanks Ignazio for this thread - one of my favorite parts of an always too short season.

Ignatius -14
Montini +3
DePaul +4
SF +13 (but give me the moneyline too)
JCA -35
Rita +10
LWE -7

 

[McCaravan]

I always love when they have MC with a FG tied to their score as they have only attempted 1 this season to my memory 😀

 

[Alexander32]

A special thanks to the greatest fans in high school football:
@k1867 @3OrangeWhips @refref01 @tuccs @BillyTheBuffoon @pjjp @80sRambler @MsDavis10 @Stella5 @BornNRazed @ESCC fan @RockSoup @stl705 @BoundaryCorner @McCaravan @ChicagoRambler @SiuCubFan8 @DMurph11 @Crusaderfan19 @K3D88 @RameyJacoby
Once again, you've all made this a memorable and interesting season. Watching the LA-MS game last Saturday, beautiful late fall day, two rivals, excitement - I could not imagine being anywhere else. Cheers to all our teams and followers!

Notre Dame (Niles, IL) at St. Ignatius (Chicago, IL) Fri., Nov. 22, 7:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: St. Ignatius (Chicago, IL) 27 (81%), [2024] Notre Dame (Niles, IL) 13 (19%)]

Wilmington (12-0) at Lombard (Montini) (10-2), Sat., Nov. 23, 1:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: Wilmington (IL) 20 (58%) Montini Catholic (Lombard, IL) 17 (42%)]

Chicago (DePaul) (9-3) at Coal City (10-2), Sat., Nov. 23, 1:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: Coal City (IL) 28 (60%) DePaul College Prep (Chicago, IL) 24 (40%)]

Wheaton (St. Francis) (10-2) at LaGrange Park (Nazareth Academy) (10-2), Sat., Nov. 23, 1:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: Nazareth Academy (LaGrange Park, IL) 35 (80%) St. Francis (Wheaton, IL) 22 (20%)]

Morris (8-4) at Joliet (Catholic Academy) (9-3), Sat., Nov. 23, 2:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: Joliet Catholic Academy (Joliet, IL) 42 (98%) Morris (IL) 7 (2%)]

Chicago (Mt. Carmel) (9-3) at Chicago (St. Rita) (10-2), Sat., Nov. 23, 3:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: #174 Mount Carmel (Chicago, IL) 31 (74%) St. Rita (Chicago, IL) 21 (26%)]

Wilmette (Loyola Academy) (10-2) at Frankfort (Lincoln-Way East) (12-0), Sat., Nov. 23, 6:00 pm
[projection and percent chances to win: Lincoln-Way East (Frankfort, IL) 26 (65%) Loyola Academy (Wilmette, IL) 19 (35%)]

One of the computer rating systems is going to be wrong. While CalPreps has Wilmington a 3-point favorite over Montini (as shown in this thread), Massey is predicting a 34-14 victory for Montini.

 

[MsDavis10]

One of the computer rating systems is going to be wrong. While CalPreps has Wilmington a 3-point favorite over Montini (as shown in this thread), Massey is predicting a 34-14 victory for Montini.

I think I can speak for the board when I say we’re keeping Montini at +3

 

[tuccs]

Wow! Now I know gambletron has thought very highly of Naz all year and I’ve seen some pretty crazy spreads but I think this one is not only crazy it’s completely backwards. Naz has to be at the very least a 2 score home dog this weekend.

 

[SiuCubFan8]

Notre Dame (Niles, IL) at St. Ignatius (Chicago, IL) Fri., Nov. 22, 7:00 pm
Iggy Covers in this one.

Wilmington (12-0) at Lombard (Montini) (10-2), Sat., Nov. 23, 1:00 pm
Give me points and Bronco all day and twice on Sunday.

Chicago (DePaul) (9-3) at Coal City (10-2), Sat., Nov. 23, 1:00 pm
DePaul rolls onto the 9A errrr 4A title game.

Wheaton (St. Francis) (10-2) at LaGrange Park (Nazareth Academy) (10-2), Sat., Nov. 23, 1:00 pm
I will gladly take the point and Sparty but tucs wins and heads to Normal for a rematch with JCA.

Morris (8-4) at Joliet (Catholic Academy) (9-3), Sat., Nov. 23, 2:00 pm
JCA covers and has a rematch with tucs.

Chicago (Mt. Carmel) (9-3) at Chicago (St. Rita) (10-2), Sat., Nov. 23, 3:00 pm
I will go with my 2nd favorite CCL team, 'Stangs with the points.

Wilmette (Loyola Academy) (10-2) at Frankfort (Lincoln-Way East) (12-0), Sat., Nov. 23, 6:00 pm
Ramblers and the points.

 

[80sRambler]

Iggy
Montini
DePaul
Naz
JCA
MC
LWE

 

[Stella5]

Iggy -14
Montini +3
Depaul +4
SF +13
Morris +35
MC -10
LWE -7

 

[pjjp]

Some surprising spreads from Gambletron this week. I might be able to get more than 1 right. Hope springs eternal.

Ignatius -14....picking these Prep Bowl games is a bit like picking the games in the last week of the NFL season. Who is actually trying to win?
Montini +3...what was Gambletron smoking in coming up with this spread?
DePaul +4....Gambletron still with some altered perception on this one?
St Francis +13....seems like too many points. Rivalry game played a second time. Should be close.
Morris +35....can Morris compete at the LOS? They didn't last year. IF the compete better, they will cover this spread.
Rita +10....another rivalry game played a second time. MC's pass defense is very suspect. Does Rita have the passing game to exploit that? Rita's defense is stout, but MC will score. Can Rita score enough to keep this one close and possibly pull it out at the end? I like their chances at home. (Hopefully, that's not the kiss of death for the Mustangs).
LWE -7....went into this expecting to take LA and the points. But, I thought the spread would be higher. Just seems like a tall order for the Ramblers in Frankfort only getting 7. This LWE team just seems too good.

 

[ChicagoRambler]

Thanks for putting these together! I've been busy the last couple months so haven't been able to participate as much as I want.

However... I'm recently married so I feel I might have gained a clairvoyance around CCL spreads.

Iggy -14
Montini +3
DePaul +4
St Francis +13
Morris +35
Rita +10
LA +7

 

[Dave Brody]

Anyone know the week 9 spread for the SF/Naz game? We know the result of that game.

+13 for SF is high for the Semis.

 

[RockSoup]

Thanks for putting these together! I've been busy the last couple months so haven't been able to participate as much as I want.

However... I'm recently married so I feel I might have gained a clairvoyance around CCL spreads.

Iggy -14
Montini +3
DePaul +4
St Francis +13
Morris +35
Rita +10
LA +7

Congratulations on getting married. We will see you more often around these parts. Bathroom time increases directly proportional to length of marriage. I’ve been married a long while

 

[SiuCubFan8]

Anyone know the week 9 spread for the SF/Naz game? We know the result of that game.

+13 for SF is high for the Semis.

Naz @ SF
regular season (neutral field)
[2024] Nazareth Academy (LaGrange Park, IL) 44 (92%), [2024] St. Francis (Wheaton, IL) 22 (8%)

 

[BillyTheBuffoon]

Saint Ignatius 24 Notre Dame 10 (+14): I don't know what to say about the Prep Bowl Catholic Finals other than I hope everyone has fun

Montini 23 (+3) Wilmington 21: . This may be the Environment of the Week. If this game was under the lights, I may have taken Wilmington, but I am staying true to my Catholic Faith and going with the Broncos. This really could be an all time classic.

DePaul Prep 35 (+4) Coal City 24: Now I may be saying something foolish here, but is Coal City actually better than St. Laurence? DePaul has been battle tested and Coal City has not played much competition and they lost to the 2 decent teams they have played.

Nazareth 34 Saint Francis 28 (+13): My Lord in Heaven...history has repeated itself a second straight year! And it will repeat in similar fashion when the Roadrunners clip the Spartans again.


Joliet Catholic 35 Morris 10 (-35): One of the State's great playoff rivalries renewed! Unfortunately for the Redskins, they don't have the Jimmy's and Joe's this year to compete with the Joliet Machine.


Saint Rita 30 (+10) Mount Carmel 28: GOTW! I was such a buffoon when I questioned St. Rita in week 2 when they didn't pack 79th and Western and got whooped up by the Brown. Since that game, it seems like both teams have been on opposite trajectories (Relax Caravan, you're not down sliding, you're just not yourselves). I am expecting this to be an all time classic in this Mount Rushmore rivalry and I am taking the Ponies to end years of playoff frustration against MC.

Lincoln Way East 32 (-7) Loyola 21: I see this being a close contest into the 4th quarter with LWE covering late. Loyola has too much pedigree to let this not be a close game, but LWE has been essentially the undisputed best team all year and I just don't see their season stopping now.

 

[refref01]

ND
Montini
DePaul
Francis
Morris
MC
LWE

 

[k1867]

St. Ignatius -14
Montini Catholic +3
DePaul College Prep+4
St. Francis +13
Joliet Catholic Academy -35
Mount Carmel -10
Lincoln-Way East -7

 

[RockSoup]

NND +14 I'm officially on the Don bandwagon. I think their game matches up well vs Iggy and we are treated to an exciting back and forth affair

Montini +3 The line reminds me of when my Pops ran a confidence pool at the tavern for the neighborhood degens back in the day with the teaser spread for the College bowl games. You'd think swinging a line 10 points was easy pickings. It was not.

DeP +4 Not exactly confident with the Rams being on the road but they have had an exceptional year and cannot see it ending this weekend.

Naz -13 Hurts me to do this to my new Spartan friends but taking the 'runners seniors at home over the young St. Francis squad. I will justify it to my new friends by telling them I am only doing this to counteract Tuccs Holtzian posts this week.

JCA -35 I am done going opposite the Hilltoppers. They are rough and tumble to the outside looking in but actually explosive enough to keep crushing these spreads each week

MC -10 A little recency bias has infected a handful of pickers out there in Edgyland between St. Rita's impressive third quarter vs Quincy and Mt. Carmel's closer-than-expected shave vs the Ironmen last weekend. Hoping it's a close game into the 4th quarter and if it is, Mt. Carmel has proven they don't mind scoring all the way up to the 0:00 mark. So a backdoor cover is always in play even if the action on the field is more of a slobber-knocker

LA +7 No team has benefitted more from a week one opponent than the Ramblers have from their Flyer drubbing in August. Will they win, who knows, but they are better today than nearly 3 months ago

 

[Alexander32]

Some surprising spreads from Gambletron this week. I might be able to get more than 1 right. Hope springs eternal.

Ignatius -14....picking these Prep Bowl games is a bit like picking the games in the last week of the NFL season. Who is actually trying to win?
Montini +3...what was Gambletron smoking in coming up with this spread?
DePaul +4....Gambletron still with some altered perception on this one?
St Francis +13....seems like too many points. Rivalry game played a second time. Should be close.
Morris +35....can Morris compete at the LOS? They didn't last year. IF the compete better, they will cover this spread.
Rita +10....another rivalry game played a second time. MC's pass defense is very suspect. Does Rita have the passing game to exploit that? Rita's defense is stout, but MC will score. Can Rita score enough to keep this one close and possibly pull it out at the end? I like their chances at home. (Hopefully, that's not the kiss of death for the Mustangs).
LWE -7....went into this expecting to take LA and the points. But, I thought the spread would be higher. Just seems like a tall order for the Ramblers in Frankfort only getting 7. This LWE team just seems too good.

The following question is posed merely as a matter of curiosity. Why do people on this thread periodically refer to Gambletron, when the predictions come from CalPreps?

 

[RockSoup]

The following question is posed merely as a matter of curiosity. Why do people on this thread periodically refer to Gambletron, when the predictions come from CalPreps?

What. The. Heck. My whole life has been a lie. No way. Out with your blasphemy. Its full name is actually Gambletron 3000 tho. So there.

 

[tuccs]

Naz -13 Hurts me to do this to my new Spartan friends but taking the 'runners seniors at home over the young St. Francis squad. I will justify it to my new friends by telling them I am only doing this to counteract Tuccs Holtzian posts this week.

Ouch! I’m human you know! When I get cut I bleed 😢

I like your pick though 😉

 

[PhilsBurner]

NND +14 I'm officially on the Don bandwagon. I think their game matches up well vs Iggy and we are treated to an exciting back and forth affair

Montini +3 The line reminds me of when my Pops ran a confidence pool at the tavern for the neighborhood degens back in the day with the teaser spread for the College bowl games. You'd think swinging a line 10 points was easy pickings. It was not.

DeP +4 Not exactly confident with the Rams being on the road but they have had an exceptional year and cannot see it ending this weekend.

Naz -13 Hurts me to do this to my new Spartan friends but taking the 'runners seniors at home over the young St. Francis squad. I will justify it to my new friends by telling them I am only doing this to counteract Tuccs Holtzian posts this week.

JCA -35 I am done going opposite the Hilltoppers. They are rough and tumble to the outside looking in but actually explosive enough to keep crushing these spreads each week

MC -10 A little recency bias has infected a handful of pickers out there in Edgyland between St. Rita's impressive third quarter vs Quincy and Mt. Carmel's closer-than-expected shave vs the Ironmen last weekend. Hoping it's a close game into the 4th quarter and if it is, Mt. Carmel has proven they don't mind scoring all the way up to the 0:00 mark. So a backdoor cover is always in play even if the action on the field is more of a slobber-knocker

LA +7 No team has benefitted more from a week one opponent than the Ramblers have from their Flyer drubbing in August. Will they win, who knows, but they are better today than nearly 3 months ago

Going against your own team. FredoSoup. Take your shitty playlist to another teams box next year. Think that was inevitable anyways.

 

[ESCC fan]

Semifinal weekend and look at all the games we have to pick. We CCL fans are truly lucky! Unfortunately, we are guaranteed the end of at least three CCL team's seasons this weekend. Let's hope that's it!

Dons +14 vs Iggy. Who know who will / won't be playing for these squads. I think it'll be low scoring and hard hitting. Wouldn't be surprised to see a PUSH, but I'll go ND to cover. Iggy 27-14.

Montini +3 vs Wilmington. Broncos getting points at home? Sure, I'll take that. Montini continues to roll. Broncos 31-21.

DePaul +4 vs Coal City. Huge win for the Rams last week. Their first state title is within reach now and the Coalers won't be able to do much to stop it. DePaul 40-21.

WSF +13 vs Naz. Shocked at this spread. Did the Gambletron not take into account the fact that the Spartans just beat the Roadrunners a few weeks ago? Odd. Expect a similar game, but Naz pulls it off this time. Nazareth 38-31.

Morris +35 vs JCA. Far too big of a spread for these rivals. How many times have these schools faced off in the state playoffs? Seems like every year. Hilltoppers win and set up the nightmare ALL CATHOLIC SCHOOL FINAL! JCA 35-14.

Rita +10 vs MC. Quabbled on this one for a bit, but Rita looked really strong last week. I think they keep this one within striking distance all game. Caravan 28-24.

LWE -7 vs Loyola. Ramblers D does all it can, but it won't be enough. We will argue all offseason about who would have won a ESL / LWE showdown. Griffins 31-20.

 

[ignazio]

The following question is posed merely as a matter of curiosity. Why do people on this thread periodically refer to Gambletron, when the predictions come from CalPreps?

 

[Crusaderfan19]

Iggy -14
Montini +3
DePaul +4
Naz -13
Morris +35
MC -10
LWE -7

 

[BoundaryCorner]

Iggy -14 Iggy 35 ND 7
Montini +3 Montini 34 Wilmington 21 Very interesting line here. Has Wilmington played anyone besides Coal City?
DePaul +4 Depaul 35 Coal City 14 Again has Coal City played anyone besides Morris and Wilmington?
SF +13 Naz 34 St Francis 24 Close for awhile
Morris +35 JCA 38 Morris 14 just too many points
MC -10 MC 21 St. Rita 10
LWE -7 LWE 27 Loyola 19 Tough one... Loyola is playing very well, just think its LWE year.