Yes, because, again from their perspective, the good public school team will have earned its success fairly whereas the good private school team will have obtained its success unfairly. To Antioch, it is a matter of principle.
Let's talk 6a bracket.
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I know you are playing devils advocate here, but that would be such a losers mentality (which is sort of what it appears the Antioch coaches have). To claim some sort of moral or principled victory by losing in the playoffs to a public vs private schools is hard to understand. 2 years ago Antioch opened their season @Carmel and lost by 3. Last year they lose to that same team by 40 and now they are throwing a pity party about how unfair it is to have to play them.
‘Last year they lose to that same team by 40’
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Don’t cheat our victory…😅
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Don’t cheat our victory…😅
Y'all realize you can look up who petioned up, right? And you also know they usually play in 6A too, right?
Yes and GBS normally plays North 5A but was put South 6A and plays Kankakee.
Which is funny, because one could very easily argue that an institution (and it's associated athletic programs) who receives state + municipal funding and is allocated a captive geographic monopoly on free education has obtained something...
Whereas a self-funded institution (and it's associated athletic programs) forced to offer an expensive product in a crowded, competitive market has earned something...
But I digress! Two devil's advocates going back and forth won't get us anywhere. They are certainly entitled to both their perspective and their 6A berth!
Come on man? you can't be serious. you guys just lost to Grant who got boat raced by Mundelein earlier this year. You may win your first game but you're not getting by any of those big three. I'm guessing when you lose your coach will be complaining about the seeding process!
I think this might add some perspective. Here is the Strength of Schedule for the top 16 seeds in 6A.
| IL SS Rank | Schedule Strength | School | Seed |
6 | 26.8 | East St. Louis (IL) | 1 |
44 | 16.5 | Central (Burlington, IL) | 6 |
49 | 15.3 | Geneva (IL) | 3 |
55 | 14.9 | Cary-Grove (Cary, IL) | 1 |
72 | 11 | Libertyville (IL) | 2 |
80 | 8.2 | Lake Forest (IL) | 7 |
103 | 4.2 | Glenwood (Chatham, IL) | 5 |
130 | -0.4 | Washington (IL) | 7 |
162 | -2.6 | Bloomington (IL) | 6 |
183 | -4 | Richards [H. L.] (Oak Lawn, IL) | 2 |
193 | -4.4 | Kankakee (IL) | 3 |
194 | -4.5 | Normal West (Normal, IL) | 8 |
273 | -10.2 | Wauconda (IL) | 5 |
283 | -10.6 | Belvidere North (Belvidere, IL) | 4 |
291 | -11 | Antioch (IL) | 8 |
491 | -42.7 | Kennedy [John F.] (Chicago, IL) | 8 |
365 | -17.3 | Grayslake North (Grayslake, IL) | 9 |
Agree with what you are saying. I wish there were more people on this website that actually went to games outside of their own high school interest and saw some of these other players and teams and not just assume that their team is the best every single year. In regards to Antioch they are a big fish in a small stinky pond as that conference is hot garbage. If Antioch was in the North Suburban conference where they used to be 15 years ago or so they would be battling Mundelein for sixth place every year. They have the opportunity every year or two to pick up non-conference games against bigger schools or more competitive schools and they choose not to so they can go into the postseason excited about their eight and nine win record only to get bounced by legit teams.
CalPreps rates Antioch 4538 nationally. Played two teams ranked higher than them.
WINS: #3887 Wauconda (IL) (38-24), #6084 Grayslake North (Grayslake, IL) (22-18), #6484 Zion-Benton (Zion, IL) (33-20), #8725 Grayslake Central (Grayslake, IL) (53-20), #9427 North Chicago (IL) (50-8), #10221 Lakes (Lake Villa, IL) (41-6), #12319 Round Lake (IL) (63-0), LOSSES: #4292 Schaumburg (IL) (12-7), #6139 Grant Community (Fox Lake, IL) (56-54)
CalPreps rates Carmel 2485 nationally. Played seven teams ranked higher than them.
WINS: #1809 Providence Catholic (New Lenox, IL) (27-24), #5759 Marian Catholic (Chicago Heights, IL) (42-20), #8725 Grayslake Central (Grayslake, IL) (63-13), LOSSES: #245 Loyola Academy (Wilmette, IL) (34-16), #471 Fenwick (Oak Park, IL) (36-12), #782 Montini Catholic (Lombard, IL) (34-16), #1863 DePaul College Prep (Chicago, IL) (25-22), #1852 Lake Forest (IL) (24-14), #1890 St. Laurence (Burbank, IL) (17-14)
FWIW - by some of the major ranking sites, East Side's ranking went UP after a loss.
17 spots on maxpreps.
Oddly, IMG moved up as well. But that likely had more to do with the SJB vs Mater Dei game.
CG has to get past Chicago Senn, then we can discuss a game vs Antioch. If they were to match up it would be at Cary too
Unfairly, what a joke. Not all private schools are the same. You are telling me a good public school earns its success? Why cause they are public. Maybe some private schools have better coaching and that bothers you. I know when you have a coach that is on your staff and they whine about playing someone else, I would never send my son to that school. LWE, MS, Kankakee, ESL, etc never bitch about private schools. They know they have a great staff and they work to get their kids better. Get off this high horse about what is fair vs unfair. BE BETTER!!!!!
get past Senn , are you kidding. CG is sending their Frosh team to play this game.
Always respect the team you’re playing this week and don’t look ahead.
I have a problem with 99 zip codes but a title-town ain't one, or something like that.
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lol CG won 71-6 maybe you weren’t kidding about sending their frosh team 😅
Antioch better win it, they have no excuses this year
What is fun about playing CG. You might not score a point against them and if you do, it will be after they put their 2s in. Another good season for Antioch, but no match for the top teams in the state.
My friend, you said the below earlier in this thread….⬇️⬇️⬇️
You are talking about 3 schools that have enrollments under 800 without the multiplier. JCA (585) STF (685) Naz (715). You want them in 6A because they WIN? What about Rochester (754) who has won about 9 state titles the past 11 or 12 years in 4A. Why don't they move up to get challenged. There is no good system, but just cause teams are private doesn't mean that they should get penalized for winning. This should happen to all schools, regardless. CPS for basketball can play for any school in the city....is that fair??? Life is not fair, get better!!!
The fighting pebbles moved up without winning. That’s the real sign of a legit program.
Next week they will get to show what they’re made of for the whole state to see.
To be the best, you gotta play the best.
#Pebs2024
Moving up does mean you have a real program; you moved up because you couldn't beat the best...You make no sense. Let's be real here, I l will bet my house that you guys stand no chance of winning against CG. I have a better chance of winning the lotto!!! Here are the facts, Antioch moved up because they feel that have a better chance of winning a few games, BUT you are now playing CG, which is Like playing Carmel, Naz, JCA, STF, but they are private so you would rather lose to a public school. Either way, they will never beat the likes of a CG....EVER!!!!
Cary wins this game by 30 plus points and that's without their best player (Abrams) done for the year. #allpebblessinktothebottom
colin2229 has been yanking your chain (to use an old phrase) for a week now and yet you are still taking his Antioch posts seriously. He is joking about Antioch and having fun at your expense. He is merely messing with you, having fun getting you agitated for some reason, and everyone's best bet is to ignore his Antioch posts. May peace be with you.
By the way, although I'm not positive about this, I don't think colin2229 is even affiliated with Antioch in any capacity whatsoever.
Abram’s is done for the season? Big loss if that’s true. Haven’t seen anything on that
Woodshed meet GBS, GBS meet the woodshed. 42-0 clocked game vs Kankakee. 2 years in a row got shutout in playoffs when not playing a CPS school. Maybe a petition up to 7A next season will finally be the answer!
