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IHSA proposed By-Law Amendments here- District talk again

All.... Looks like Williamsville and the Sangamo Conference are at the top of the list in unhappiness. See proposal 13. Not a peep about the SF rule. That would have to go as well. AD Eucker still butt hurt from the whacking the Bullets got from IC in the final last year. Interesting the spreadsheet provided stops at class 3 as well. Ratsy
 
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Removes the 1.65 multiplier and the multiplier waiver for all schools. Replaced with enrollments of non-boundary schools to be the average enrollment of all public/boundary high schools that are above that school’s enrollment and within a 30- mile radius of the school. Takes effect 2025-2026 school year.

  • The Sangamo Conference is 2a/3a. The whole purpose of this is to make sure one school is out of their division - IC.

  • SHG, with an enrollment of 536, would be 2A or 3A and would now destroy you. The average public school enrollment in a 30 mile radius of them has to be around 600.

  • What's most humorous about this, is that the below public school program is in their backyard.

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(8) Rochester (2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019)

  • Small private schools in Chicagoland would be 7a/8a. (Leo, Chicago Christian, Aurora Christian, etc)
 
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Removes the 1.65 multiplier and the multiplier waiver for all schools. Replaced with enrollments of non-boundary schools to be the average enrollment of all public/boundary high schools that are above that school’s enrollment and within a 30- mile radius of the school. Takes effect 2025-2026 school year.

So, small private schools in Chicagoland would be 7a/8a. Sounds fair.
Yep - and does absolutely nothing from the privates still dominating at the 7A and 8A levels. Penalize Aurora Christian severely but leave Mount Carmel and Loyola untouched. Got it.
 
Removes the 1.65 multiplier and the multiplier waiver for all schools. Replaced with enrollments of non-boundary schools to be the average enrollment of all public/boundary high schools that are above that school’s enrollment and within a 30- mile radius of the school. Takes effect 2025-2026 school year.

So, small private schools in Chicagoland would be 7a/8a. Sounds fair.
Althoff too. Bellevilles East/West, O'Fallon, East Side, Edwardsville,
 
Proposal 7 is interesting. Evergreen just added a basketball player who is on his third school in three years and is only a junior. He would be ineligible under their Ad's proposal.
 
Althoff too. Bellevilles East/West, O'Fallon, East Side, Edwardsville,
There are so many small public schools in a 30 mile radius of Belleville. Not the Case for Chicagoland publics. Would move them up but not as much as chicagoland schools.
 
Yep - and does absolutely nothing from the privates still dominating at the 7A and 8A levels. Penalize Aurora Christian severely but leave Mount Carmel and Loyola untouched. Got it.
All it would do is replace private schools with larger public schools who would be multiplied down.
 
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There are so many small public schools in a 30 mile radius of Belleville. Not the Case for Chicagoland publics. Would move them up but not as much as chicagoland schools.
“Replaced with enrollments of non-boundary schools to be the average enrollment of all public/boundary high schools that are ABOVE that school’s enrollment and within a 30- mile radius of the school.”

Interesting that it only counts those schools within 30 miles that have enrollments ABOVE the private school enrollment……….. (insert eye roll)
 
Yep - and does absolutely nothing from the privates still dominating at the 7A and 8A levels. Penalize Aurora Christian severely but leave Mount Carmel and Loyola untouched. Got it.
The proposal is a very small minded one coming from a very small school conference made up of small town Illinois schools. It impacts small and mid-sized non-boundaried schools the most. Once again, we are seeing IHSA policy being proposed by small town public schools that treats a perceived problem with a sledge hammer when tweezers would do the trick.
 
If the same District groupings that were posted the last time this showed up are used, every CPS should vote against this. Looking at the schedule that was proposed as a sample St. Rita and Mount Carmel would probably win 3-4 games each year by forfeit. A lot of AD's will have a lot less to do especially if this get put into other sports. There is a possibility that more not less privates make the playoffs.
 
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Districts as a way to provide group consistency is dumb reasoning. There won't be any consistency with non-boundried schools jumping in and out of districts after being multiplied or success-factored.
 
Districts as a way to provide group consistency is dumb reasoning. There won't be any consistency with non-boundried schools jumping in and out of districts after being multiplied or success-factored.
Is there projected district’s anywhere to look at?
 
Is there projected district’s anywhere to look at?
Not to my knowledge. Since this is just a proposal, no real work on determining makeup of the Districts would have been started by the IHSA. Hopefully it doesn't pass!
 
Lake View’s principal clearly has an agenda - and his proposals are by far the most serious of all
 
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Think this forces privates to do their own thing. Why would mt Carmel want to play in that conference? Would ruin their program

Doubtful. Just take a look at the difficulty in getting schools like ICCP to play nicely now.
 
Would like to see the version w/o the CPS. Cause this ain’t gonna work.

Chicago (Juarez)
Chicago (Kelly)
Chicago (Lincoln Park)
Chicago (Mt. Carmel)
Chicago (Schurz)
Chicago (Von Steuben)
Chicago (Whitney Young)
Maywood (Proviso East)
Oak Park (Fenwick)


Chicago (Kenwood)
Chicago (Little Village)
Chicago (Perspective/Leadership)
Chicago (Phoenix)
Chicago (Solorio Academy)
Chicago (St. Ignatius)
Chicago (Westinghouse)
LaGrange Park (Nazareth Academy)
Riverside Brookfield
 
Think this forces privates to do their own thing.
I wish, but it probably won't happen. It won't happen because the private schools are too decentralized. They have successfully divided themselves which make them easy to conquer as a group.

The problem is going to be getting the private schools together and agreeing on anything. Unlike public schools where almost every principal and superintendent belongs to statewide professional associations of principals and superintendents, the same cannot be said for private schools. First of all, there are no private school superintendents per se. Secondly, most private school principals probably don't belong to the Illinois Principals Association.

There just aren't any statewide associations where private schools get together and communicate amongst themselves. Catholic schools do it by diocese, Even within Catholic schools, schools do it by their sponsoring religious orders (if they have one), but that happens on a national or regional level. Christian schools do it, Lutheran schools do it. Non-sectarian private schools do it through the National Association of Independent Schools or the Independent Schools of the Central States.

There is no single org in Illinois where private schools can discuss things like this, and it would take no small effort to organize one.
 
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I wish, but it probably won't happen. It won't happen because the private schools are too decentralized. They have successfully divided themselves which make them easy to conquer as a group.

The problem is going to be getting the private schools together and agreeing on anything. Unlike public schools where almost every principal and superintendent belongs to statewide professional associations of principals and superintendents, the same cannot be said for private schools. First of all, there are no private school superintendents per se. Secondly, most private school principals probably don't belong to the Illinois Principals Association.

There just aren't any statewide associations where private schools get together and communicate amongst themselves. Catholic schools do it by diocese, Even within Catholic schools, schools do it by their sponsoring religious orders (if they have one), but that happens on a national or regional level. Christian schools do it, Lutheran schools do it. Non-sectarian private schools do it through the National Association of Independent Schools or the Independent Schools of the Central States.

There is no single org in Illinois where private schools can discuss things like this, and it would take no small effort to organize one.
And some are just trying to survive.
 
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