carmel or mt. carmel

[The Outfit]

When people refer to carmel... if you ask anyone on the southside are they referring to Carmel Mundeline or Mt. Carmel.

when faced with the statement- " I went to Carmel." I always follow up with clarification- and people look at me like I am crazy! As if there is only one "Carmel"

I saw the post about MC- Mount Carmel, Morris Community, or Marian Catholic.

Confusion in my small brain

 

[mc140]

MC = Mt. Carmel
CoM = Carmel of Mundelein
MCHS = Montini
Marian = Marian Catholic
MCC = Marian Central Catholic
Morris = Morris

 

[Irish LB]

Depends on where you’re located but to the Southside there is definitely only 1 Carmel.

 

[greatgig13]

Depends on where you’re located but to the Southside there is definitely only 1 Carmel.

Being a Northwest sider, Carmel is Mundelein. You can’t leave out Mt. and assume it’s the other.

 

[McCaravan]

If lived in the Mundelein area I would say Mount Carmel but anywhere else I think Carmel is thought of Mount Carmel when referring to high school or high school football. And that not a knock on C of M at all, but I’ve never once been asked “Carmel Mundelein?” when I say I went to Carmel.

Also a decade or so ago MC went away with spelling it out as Mt. Carmel and went with Mount Carmel and I really don’t know why....right around the same time they ditched the yellow (call it Gold all you want it was yellow) and went strictly Brown and White....

 

[greatgig13]

If lived in the Mundelein area I would say Mount Carmel but anywhere else I think Carmel is thought of Mount Carmel when referring to high school or high school football. And that not a knock on C of M at all, but I’ve never once been asked “Carmel Mundelein?” when I say I went to Carmel.

Also a decade or so ago MC went away with spelling it out as Mt. Carmel and went with Mount Carmel and I really don’t know why....right around the same time they ditched the yellow (call it Gold all you want it was yellow) and went strictly Brown and White....

Different today I guess than when I was playing in the 80’s. I didn’t know half the teams on the south side until I met guys in college. When you come from a conference that had very little success at state back then, your awareness is more geographical.

 

[MC63]

If lived in the Mundelein area I would say Mount Carmel but anywhere else I think Carmel is thought of Mount Carmel when referring to high school or high school football. And that not a knock on C of M at all, but I’ve never once been asked “Carmel Mundelein?” when I say I went to Carmel.

Also a decade or so ago MC went away with spelling it out as Mt. Carmel and went with Mount Carmel and I really don’t know why....right around the same time they ditched the yellow (call it Gold all you want it was yellow) and went strictly Brown and White....

That yellow/ gold was awful Thank God it's gone. Now if the cheerleaders would only drop that reference from their collection.

I had no idea that they dropped "Mt." for
"Mount."

Regarding "Carmel" - the school on Dante has been around since the Polk administration (or so it seems) and it's always been referred to simply as Carmel by anyone associated with it.

When the Carmelites founded the Mundelein school, they never assumed that the two schools would ever be confused for one another. Maybe they should have called the new school, "Mount."

They always brag about all the Carmelite saints - they could have named the new school after one of them. (St. Wally's?)

 

[ignazio]

There's only one Mount Carmel . . .

 

[olderbytheminute]

Just offering up a fun anecdote regarding "Carmel" of Mundelein and "Mt. Carmel' of Chicago.
Back in the late 1990s/early 2000s, the East Suburban Catholic Conference and the Chicago Catholic League for some reason morphed into the Catholic Metro Conference with color divisions of Red, White & Blue.
The "two" Carmel schools were in the same division, and the Mundelein-based school won the regular-season matchup and the division championship, while the Chicago-based school won the rematch in the playoffs en route to winning the 2002 state championship.
Because Mundelein's Carmel was part of the Catholic Metro Conference, it was allowed at that time to participate in the Prep Bowl playoffs after it lost to Chicago's Mt. Carmel in the playoffs.
And as things turned out, Mundelein's Carmel won the Prep Bowl.
Now, for the anecdote.
Early in the week of the Prep Bowl, there was like a dinner/banquet held for the competing teams, which were Mundelein's Carmel and I believe it was Chicago Dunbar.
The year before this — 2001 — Mt. Carmel of Chicago won the Prep Bowl game, but obviously couldn't defend its title in 2002 because it was playing in the IHSA tournament.
Anyway, at the banquet, one of the Prep Bowl officials spoke and did not realize that the team representing the Catholic Metro Conference was NOT Mt. Carmel from Chicago. My memory has faded on this over the past 17 years, but I think he made a reference when speaking at the banquet to Mt. Carmel returning to the Prep Bowl to defend its championship from 2001 ... not realizing that the Carmel team in the hall was from Mundelein rather than Chicago.
Oops.

 

[olderbytheminute]

One question about the Catholic Metro Conference and the Prep Bowl.....
It seems like there was some fuss made during the Catholic Metro Conference era that the team representing the CMC in the Prep Bowl had very little to do with Chicago.
I know that Joliet Catholic and Marian Catholic, long with Mundelein's Carmel, played in the Prep Bowl, but it just seems like there was some ado at the time because the Catholic school playing in Chicago's big game didn't have anything to do with Chicago.
Maybe I remember incorrectly, and if so, likely one of you guys will recall all this.

 

[PanthersWildcats86]

The Mt. Carmel I most likely would run into won the football 3A title in 1981, 3A runners up in 1974 and 2011, and 4A runners up in 2001-02. They also were baseball runners up 3 times & were basketball champions once and hoops runners up once...And they are the true Mt. Carmel...Really cool stadium too...

 

[caravan8]

Also a decade or so ago MC went away with spelling it out as Mt. Carmel and went with Mount Carmel and I really don’t know why....right around the same time they ditched the yellow (call it Gold all you want it was yellow) and went strictly Brown and White....

I’m not sure why they went away from it. I went back the school right after the 2013 7A title game for the welcome party and they were selling Back 2 Back gear. One of the hoodies had some gold trim around white lettering and Fr. Tony (who was the president at the time) was less than happy with the extra color. When I asked why he told me our colors are brown and white and that the school wanted to make sure all gear remained those colors.

 

[turner1014]

Our daughter is a grad of CoM and went to St Ambrose U. with a bunch of south side kids who went to various southside catholic hs. and it was always funny to see their reaction when she said she went to Carmel.

 

[The Outfit]

My point is proven!

 

[JCHillmen]

One question about the Catholic Metro Conference and the Prep Bowl.....
It seems like there was some fuss made during the Catholic Metro Conference era that the team representing the CMC in the Prep Bowl had very little to do with Chicago.
I know that Joliet Catholic and Marian Catholic, long with Mundelein's Carmel, played in the Prep Bowl, but it just seems like there was some ado at the time because the Catholic school playing in Chicago's big game didn't have anything to do with Chicago.
Maybe I remember incorrectly, and if so, likely one of you guys will recall all this.

Yes I believe you are correct. Recently they changed the rule to allow only city Catholic schools and a few legacy CCL suburban schools to compete.

I will be curious to see how the Prep Bowl evolves now that the CCL and ESCC are one and in a few years may not exist at all for football.

 

[ignazio]

I will be curious to see how the Prep Bowl evolves now that the CCL and ESCC are one and in a few years may not exist at all for football.

If CICS Longwood or Catalyst Maria made it and played Aurora Christian or Hope Academy we wouldn't know who to root for.

 

[MC63]

There's only one Mount Carmel . . .

Very clever.

That's the logo of the Mt. Carmel high school in east central Illinois.

The team's nickname is the Golden Aces.

You must have been awake half the night over this one.

 

[Blue Ruin]

Yeah, that Ignazio is a sly one. I've heard that his real name is Iggy Schwartz, but he changed it to Ignazio so he could pass for Italian.

 

[mchsalumni]

...right around the same time they ditched the yellow (call it Gold all you want it was yellow) and went strictly Brown and White....

Nothing like going from a terrible color scheme to a really terrible color scheme, right?

 

[mchsalumni]

There's only one Mount Carmel . . .

This made me lol.

 

[superac777]

The Mt. Carmel I most likely would run into won the football 3A title in 1981, 3A runners up in 1974 and 2011, and 4A runners up in 2001-02. They also were baseball runners up 3 times & were basketball champions once and hoops runners up once...And they are the true Mt. Carmel...Really cool stadium too...

The Golden Aces!!! I was scrolling thru here seeing if anyone would remember them.They play in a conference in Indiana the Big 8.Their stadium is the Snake Pit that overlooks the Wabash River & as a football fan a must to see sometime as is the Reitz Bowl in nearby Evansville Indiana

 

[Oddy]

My two youngest boys played football for CoM in late 90's early 00's. I like to think they helped changed the question from "Who?" to "Which Carmel?".

 

[Kevin JCHS 81]

My two youngest boys played football for CoM in late 90's early 00's. I like to think they helped changed the question from "Who?" to "Which Carmel?".

Yes they had some formidable teams in those years.

 

[McCaravan]

My two youngest boys played football for CoM in late 90's early 00's. I like to think they helped changed the question from "Who?" to "Which Carmel?".

The 2001-2003 teams were outstanding. That quarter final game between the two Carmel’s in 2002 is in my top 10 best MC games I’ve seen...top 5 probably