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4A north is going to be great to follow. Too much talk of IC vs Rochester for the title.
All these powerhouse programs are currently sitting 5-0 in the north……
Morris
Richmond Burton
Geneseo
Rockford Boylan
Let’s not forget, IC should have lost in the quarters last year vs Princeton. They won’t walk through 4a north.
All these powerhouse programs are currently sitting 5-0 in the north……
Morris
Richmond Burton
Geneseo
Rockford Boylan
Let’s not forget, IC should have lost in the quarters last year vs Princeton. They won’t walk through 4a north.
What is the quality of the passing attack/s the teams on your list face in the regular season?
No idea. Don't follow any of these teams. All these teams are well coached and will provide a great challenge to IC. 4a is a total different animal than 3a.
Morris and RB are more than capable of defending the pass, Geneseo is always a fundamentally sound, disciplined team, and can't speak for Boylan.
Morris and RB play this week and typically have a balanced offensive attack and stout defenses. RB should win this game.
To what you're getting at, none of them have faced the kind of offense that IC has but are capable of stepping up to the challenge. Last time Morris was 4A they contained Rochester in the title game and lost on a last second FG.
Winner of 4A north will have to beat there way thru a gauntlet of tough teams while Rochester rests their starters thru a series of clockers
Look to be pretty solidly on 4A this year. Smallest school in 4A this week is 563.5 and IC is 603.
Ihsa site has their last June true enrollment at 368 an then multiplied to 608
It would be nice if Morris went south to balance things out a bit. 4A looks pretty good this year.
You're going to catch hell for that comment. But you are correct. In fact, I see Morris beating IC in the semifinal. By at least 10. Morris is strong this year.
You just made the comment that EVERY homer from the Northern bracket forgets every year. They always brag about how the CCL or the North will run all over the South and then realize a Southern bracket team has won the final in 10 out of the past 13 in 4A. And all of them had a passing attack along with a defense the North thinks they can run thru but rarely do.
By at least 10, I’ll take that action.
CONTAINED? Rochester had 400 yards of offense and a 21-7 lead. Contained? No. Survived until they could figure out a running game, yes.
And win a 9th out nine appearances. The Rochester fanbase has heard this frequently
In last last week's Playoff outlook, they were just barely in the South. However, in week 3, they were 5A.
Where do you see a north/south dividing line on the Playoff Outlook? Or are you dividing it on your own, if so what's your dividing line?
400 yards, but only 21 points from a team that was averaging over 40 points per game in the playoffs. So yeah, I'd say contained.
Morris is solid, but feel they were better last year, at least up front. I think they finish 7-2 with losses to Richmond Burton and Sycamore.
If you look at the last 5 years, the north has done pretty well in 4A. Starting from 2018, state champions have gone; IC, Richmond B, Covid, JCA, and finally SHG. As a "homer" of the North, it does seem completely lopsided when you compare brackets year after year. The overall depth in the northern brackets is unquestionably better making it more difficult to get to the state final. As for this year, I hope Morris stays in 4A and makes it to the southern bracket to even it out a little bit (no SHG down there this year being in 5A). However I don't think 4A is as strong this year as it has been in the last couple years. Barring any injuries, IC should come out of the North as they are LOADED with talent and might have their best overall team in a while. RB probably has the best chance to keep it close with them but I'm not sure anyone in 4A is beating IC. Morris is worse than last year, especially up front, and the defense is average. They play RB at home this week and we should learn more but they had this same hyped up matchup last year and RB won 31-7. I haven't been able to see Rochester play but I've heard they are really strong this year as well. I think that matchup with IC in the state final would be a fun one to watch. And lastly, because I'm a northern "homer", I'm asking the southern folks this question. Who else is good in the south? Will anyone even keep it close with Rochester come playoff time?
It would be nice if the IHSA to seed all classes 1-32.
It falls along I 80. It’s literally longitudinal minutes of difference. Geneseo and coal city would fall south. I input them on Google maps.
I remember watching that one closely. Nobody, at least in 4A, was going to “stop” Rochester. It was pretty much the definition of “contained” in that context.
Morris has an IHSA enrollment of 848. Last years 4A/5A cutoff was 858. It’ll be close
Some of the bold statements being made about Morris in this thread are pretty comical. Through 5 games Morris is averaging 45 points per game while allowing 12. The offense is averaging 430 yards and the defense is allowing 200. They also have the most playoff points in 4A and 3rd most in the state. Schedule has been no joke.
Anybody handing this weeks game to Richmond Burton has clearly not seen this year's version of the Redskins in person. Morris is also at home. Will it be a good game? Of course. Is this year's Morris team "average", "worse than least year", or intimidated by RB? Absolutely not.
Anybody handing this weeks game to Richmond Burton has clearly not seen this year's version of the Redskins in person. Morris is also at home. Will it be a good game? Of course. Is this year's Morris team "average", "worse than least year", or intimidated by RB? Absolutely not.
Going into the RB game last year I'm pretty sure Morris' numbers were about the same as this year's in terms of scoring and yardage and they got shut down and RB basically did what they wanted.
I can't speak for RB this year as I have not seen them but I feel safe in saying they will be the most disciplined team Morris will see. I have watched multiple Morris games and don't think they are on the same level as last years team, mainly up front. It should be a good game and nothing would make me happier than having to eat my words, though I don't know if I would have room after eating anything served on a stick this weekend.
I standby my prediction that Morris goes 7-2 and makes a run in 5A (I think they get bumped up at the end of the year).
Last year Morris came into this game scoring 40pts/game and giving up 11pts/game. I can't speak statistically about yards/game but I would assume that was close as well. I don't think anyone said anything about being intimidated by RB, or that the team was average. I'm not impressed with them on defensive side of the ball, and that part I do think is average. Additionally, I do think the 22' team they had last year was better than the 23' team. Maybe they will prove me wrong on Friday night. It will be both teams toughest matchup to date and I would assume Morris will be ready to play after the pounding they took from RB last year.
I agree. And I stand by my earlier predictions that Morris is tough. And should they stay in the north, they will be the northern representative in the final. I will catch hell because most have already given it to IC Catholic. But most of the North does not give Morris the credit they deserve.
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Hitting the nail on the head, my friend. Congrats for getting the point of my question!
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