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Somebody’s big mad in Antioch…and it’s only Friday

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I posted this on another thread, it looks like it also plays on this thread and about 3 others going on currently

There have been some great and competitive games between Public and Private this playoff season. LWE/LA, MC/Normal, Fenwick/DGN, DePaul/Coal City, Montini/Byron all were one possession games that went down to the end and I'm probably missing a couple more games. If Rochester didn't get upset early could they have beaten DePaul? Due to the seeding though these games happened in bracket play and seeding teams better would help that....I mean Whitney Young, who got destroyed by Iggy in the Prep Bowl, was the 7A #1 seed.....only reason they moved on to round 2 was because they played fellow CPS, a 4-5 Kenwood, in round 1. But how do we do this? Whitney was the only 9-0 team. You have to start factoring in Strength of Schedule. I'm sure we will own moan over that too but it's will better divide teams forced to play early on.
 
can anyone provide a paper trail showing tuitions paid for athletes to play?

nothing wrong with recruiting as long as they don't pay for kids to play.

UNTIL evidence is provided that this has happened you have nothing to complain about.

i am sure people will say that it happens but is the best kept secrets... right up there with aliens and flat earth!
 
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Put all bracket seeding in a true 1 to 32 seeding and problem solved.

Stop seeding the north and south separately.

Result Example - In 3a it would be Byron vs Montini..
 
Put all bracket seeding in a true 1 to 32 seeding and problem solved.

Stop seeding the north and south separately.

Result Example - In 3a it would be Byron vs Montini..
1-32 seeding won't necessarily solve anything. Better than N-S? Yes. Good enough to make up for the additional travel time in classes? Probably no. Unless you can get at least the top 4 teams in separate quarters, regardless of W-L, you're gonna often get mismatched semis and finals. 1-32 seeding far from guarantees that.
 
Travel should not be a factor ever again, and people need to point to the amount of baseball and softball teams from IL that are now traveling south for spring break. I'm talking flying, coach buses.

No problem for those sports to raise funds or have school chip in to travel far.

No reason why football can't do it for a game, maybe 2, and not even as far as spring trips. Not an excuse anymore.
 
1-32 seeding won't necessarily solve anything. Better than N-S? Yes. Good enough to make up for the additional travel time in classes? Probably no. Unless you can get at least the top 4 teams in separate quarters, regardless of W-L, you're gonna often get mismatched semis and finals. 1-32 seeding far from guarantees that.


How many state champs had a tougher game on the road to the finals than the game in the finals.

For instance Montini was only a half yard better than Byron. Why were they playing Monticello?

The whole world knew Byron and Montini were the best teams in 3a.
 
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How many state champs had a tougher game on the road to the finals than the game in the finals.

For instance Montini was only a half yard better than Byron. Why were they playing Monticello?

The whole world knew Byron and Montini were the best teams in 3a.
Montini-Byron ending up 1-2 in a 1-32 setup (basically what you're asking) is FAR from guaranteed with the current Win-Loss and PP seeding formula. Yes N-S hurts it, but basically everything else is totally accidental one way or the other.

It really can't be done without totally subjective seeding, which of course is totally liable to get it wrong at any point also.
 
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Montini-Byron ending up 1-2 in a 1-32 setup (basically what you're asking) is FAR from guaranteed with the current Win-Loss and PP seeding formula. Yes N-S hurts it, but basically everything else is totally accidental one way or the other.

It really can't be done without totally subjective seeding, which of course is totally liable to get it wrong at any point also.


Massey figured it out. Why can't the IHSA?
 
Lol can't wait for the DC to show up on the boards again.
Strictly a non-fact driven view, but I actually think you are wrong and that the Antioch people were very satisfied with how the playoff bracket worked out this year. Next year? Well, we shall see.
First, note that while Antioch played 5A last year, got just annihilated by a private school in the second round of the playoffs, and then petitioned up to play 6A this season and next season, the Sequoits wound up in 6A this year based on their own enrollment so the playing-up request for this year was not needed. Next year, we shall see.
Anyway, given that by playing 6A, Antioch knew they have a zero chance of winning a state title and barely a non-zero chance of playoff advancement based on a nearby perennial state power from the Fox Valley Conference, plus other 6A powers such as the Geneva team that just accorded themselves very well at ISU on Saturday.
The point of that is Antioch clearly did not prefer 6A or 5A because it gave the Sequoits a better chance to be playing at ISU.
What it DID do was pretty much assure that when the Sequoits were soundly beaten in the playoffs, that it was a loss to a superior public school which obviously Antioch feels it can compete against on an equal basis ... not equal in terms of being just as good as the public school opponent but that the opponent and Antioch are playing by the same set of rules.
The Sequoits certainly seem to feel that private schools have an advantage in football based on how the IHSA rules are applied.
In other words, Antioch I assume would rather get taken out by a superior public school program that plays harder, plays smarter and coaches better, than by a private school that has what appears to be built-in advantages that public schools at Antioich's level of commitment can't match.
This year, it was obvious all season that the powerhouse Chicago Catholic League/East Suburban Catholic league was not going to have much of a presence in the 6A bracket but was going to be loaded at the 5A bracket.
Given that observation, I submit that it's the reason Antioch preferred playing 6A both this year and next.
That said, I have read on Edgy's forum that because of some CCL/ESCC schools adding an IHSA-imposed multiplier or even maybe two multipliers, and also that some CCL/ESCC schools will be losing their enrollment multiplier, that it's possible that the 6A football bracket next November will have significant private-school participation.
That, of course, defeats the purpose of Antioch petitioning to play 6A.
Then again, with the way this year's state-title game played out on Friday, maybe there will be a completely different set of multipliers to deal with next fall.
 
Massey does well, but they aren't gonna get it right all the time, either. They appeared to be way off on Lena Winslow-Althoff.

THIS!


There were many great Public/Private match up's in this years playoffs but DUE TO THE SEEDING they happened too early on. Loyola Academy/Lincoln Way East, Mt Carmel/Normal, Fenwick/Downers Grove North, DePaul/Coal City, and you can't get much closer then Byron/Montini. All great games decided by 1 score that went down to the wire.
 
After spending his morning blasting Althoff, I asked Coach Brad Dixon what vile things a chain gang member at CPC said to get ejected from a high school football game last fall?

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After spending his morning blasting Althoff, I asked Coach Brad Dixon what vile things a chain gang member at CPC said to get ejected from a high school football game last fall?

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What did he say?
 
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