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Somebody’s big mad in Antioch…and it’s only Friday

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5-6 St.Ignatius(6-6) 47 Whitney Young 8 who was 12-1 coming into the Prep Bowl
And they were the # 1 seed in 7A which never should have happened. I realize they were the only 9-0 team but they obviously weren't anywhere near the top seed.
 
I posted this on another thread, it looks like it also plays on this thread and about 3 others going on currently

There have been some great and competitive games between Public and Private this playoff season. LWE/LA, MC/Normal, Fenwick/DGN, DePaul/Coal City, Montini/Byron all were one possession games that went down to the end and I'm probably missing a couple more games. If Rochester didn't get upset early could they have beaten DePaul? Due to the seeding though these games happened in bracket play and seeding teams better would help that....I mean Whitney Young, who got destroyed by Iggy in the Prep Bowl, was the 7A #1 seed.....only reason they moved on to round 2 was because they played fellow CPS, a 4-5 Kenwood, in round 1. But how do we do this? Whitney was the only 9-0 team. You have to start factoring in Strength of Schedule. I'm sure we will own moan over that too but it's will better divide teams forced to play early on.
 
can anyone provide a paper trail showing tuitions paid for athletes to play?

nothing wrong with recruiting as long as they don't pay for kids to play.

UNTIL evidence is provided that this has happened you have nothing to complain about.

i am sure people will say that it happens but is the best kept secrets... right up there with aliens and flat earth!
 
Put all bracket seeding in a true 1 to 32 seeding and problem solved.

Stop seeding the north and south separately.

Result Example - In 3a it would be Byron vs Montini..
 
Put all bracket seeding in a true 1 to 32 seeding and problem solved.

Stop seeding the north and south separately.

Result Example - In 3a it would be Byron vs Montini..
1-32 seeding won't necessarily solve anything. Better than N-S? Yes. Good enough to make up for the additional travel time in classes? Probably no. Unless you can get at least the top 4 teams in separate quarters, regardless of W-L, you're gonna often get mismatched semis and finals. 1-32 seeding far from guarantees that.
 
Travel should not be a factor ever again, and people need to point to the amount of baseball and softball teams from IL that are now traveling south for spring break. I'm talking flying, coach buses.

No problem for those sports to raise funds or have school chip in to travel far.

No reason why football can't do it for a game, maybe 2, and not even as far as spring trips. Not an excuse anymore.
 
1-32 seeding won't necessarily solve anything. Better than N-S? Yes. Good enough to make up for the additional travel time in classes? Probably no. Unless you can get at least the top 4 teams in separate quarters, regardless of W-L, you're gonna often get mismatched semis and finals. 1-32 seeding far from guarantees that.


How many state champs had a tougher game on the road to the finals than the game in the finals.

For instance Montini was only a half yard better than Byron. Why were they playing Monticello?

The whole world knew Byron and Montini were the best teams in 3a.
 
How many state champs had a tougher game on the road to the finals than the game in the finals.

For instance Montini was only a half yard better than Byron. Why were they playing Monticello?

The whole world knew Byron and Montini were the best teams in 3a.
Montini-Byron ending up 1-2 in a 1-32 setup (basically what you're asking) is FAR from guaranteed with the current Win-Loss and PP seeding formula. Yes N-S hurts it, but basically everything else is totally accidental one way or the other.

It really can't be done without totally subjective seeding, which of course is totally liable to get it wrong at any point also.
 
Non geographic seeding is good but far far far far far far from a panacea without many other changes first.
 
Montini-Byron ending up 1-2 in a 1-32 setup (basically what you're asking) is FAR from guaranteed with the current Win-Loss and PP seeding formula. Yes N-S hurts it, but basically everything else is totally accidental one way or the other.

It really can't be done without totally subjective seeding, which of course is totally liable to get it wrong at any point also.


Massey figured it out. Why can't the IHSA?
 
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