Private Schools 7 - Public Schools 1. That’s a wrap!
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This isn’t a game thread though. But it’s 14-7 Loyola - they just scored.
Honestly I’m exhausted after 6A, which is what I want to see and know how 7 and 8 will pan out. I’ll catch the comments in the am LOL.
The point, I suppose, is the fact that those numbers represent an average of 4.5 titles per year, out of 8 opportunities each year. That is 56% of the available championships. At the same time, private schools represent only about 12-1/2% of the high schools that play football in Illinois. So, they win championships at a rate about four times greater than what might be expected based on the number of high schools that are private.
Is that acceptable? It depends on who you ask. The two types of high schools operate under different circumstances when it comes to enrolling student athletes. Also, most public high schools require their coaches to be teachers at the school. Presumably this is done to emphasize the teaching aspect of high school sports, and to not incur unnecessary costs that must be borne by taxpayers (many of whom do not care about high school football). Consequently, many supporters of public high schools feel more aggressive measures are needed to level the results somewhat, with some of the supporters even thinking the two sets of schools should have separate playoffs.
The private school supporters that participate on this message board clearly do not feel the results cited above are extraordinary. They believe the private schools, and particularly the Catholic high schools, simply work harder than their public counterparts and therefore deserve the superior results. Many of the CCL/ESCC supporters, although not all of them, believe the currently existing rules such as the success factor and possibly even the multiplier should be removed. They would like all high schools to operate without restrictions. At least that is my interpretation of what I've read on this board the last several years.
Cite all the stats you want, but everybody knows it's all about having better coaching and a tougher conference schedule 😉
JFC. He just can't help himself
That's one perspective and he's not wrong. Every year we hear how good PR and CG are because they have been running the same system since they were kids.
Idk know what his motives were. But the statement itself has merit.
Absolutely has merit. My boys play in Prospect's feeder program....and it is exactly that, a feeder program. I'm not complaining, my boys think it's cool Prospect football players are out there helping coach. But we shouldn't deny the fact that they are feeder programs.
Actually think it's a funny trolling comment by Lynch after the Batavia game, given all the whining Batavia has done.
Actually think it's a funny trolling comment by Lynch after the Batavia game, given all the whining Batavia has done.
I have to think York gets the nod for best public school performance against a Private School in this years finals.
LA/York… two good and well coached teams!
LA/York… two good and well coached teams!
He didn't say they were at a big disadvantage ...he said that schools with feeder programs are hard to beat.
Interesting note, St. Francis beat 3 state champs this year in regular season. I know it doesn’t mean anything since they lost in semi finals again but pretty crazy.
There are currently two head coaches in the MSL East that don't teach at their schools.
Why doesn't matter.
Honey, I banged that chick because she needed loving.
Or
Honey, I banged that chick because I needed some loving.
Either way, dude is effed.
It’s boiling over in Tennessee. The TSSAA is forcing small private schools to play large ones who have trouble filling their schedule. 2 small privates are saying it’s not their problem & they’re not playing as they make their own schedules & the TSSAA is in for a lawsuit.
You make very good points. However, in Michigan, the Publix are dominating. How is it that it’s actually pretty even in Michigan year to year and yet Illinois seems to always complain about this issue? Maybe public school kids in Illinois just can’t play football at a high level. East Side doesn’t care. Rochester doesn’t care. Both of those examples are diametrically different in community, income level, and geography. Yet both are feared the moment they step onto the field.
Phil Acton legend from Bolingbrook said it right years ago. Yeah it stinks we have kids who live across the street from our school that play for Providence & more so Joliet Catholic who beat us but we just need to get better then. I’m a SICA & Illini 8 guy but have no issues with Privates.
Losing Conners was a big blow to York. Really made the O one dimensional, not to mention the D impact. Not saying he'd have flipped the score, but definitely think the spread would have come down.
He’s a guy that doesn’t get it. Not hard to plug and play D1 kids on your team. The majority of HS coaches could have won a state title with his roster
15 minutes of Googling less me to this blog page. Doesn't seem like everyone in Michigan is reaching the same conclusion as you about public domination?
Directionally very similar stats to IL. And a shout out to IL for having the multiplier mentioned 😅
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I think this game could’ve been much worse actually. Loyola wasn’t interested in this score getting worse. I think Desherow took the oppposite approach of lynch. He understands how bad it would look to run it up. They could’ve scored 3 more tds in the fourth.
I don’t have an issue with them. I think all Illinois high schools should play each other but, in the playoffs, there should be separate classes. I wrote something up on here a few years ago. 5 public and 3 private classes. That’s the way to go.
Here’s a proposal… all schools commit to football being no cut, then classes are determined by total players in program. If you are a smaller school, but half the boys are there to play football, that’s more important from a competitive standpoint than a larger school where only a small fraction is interested in football. Over time, if the latter programs build up, they move up.
Here's the fix.
Enrollment is perfectly fine in classifying public schools so no need to do away with that.
We create a committee of Private school coaches/AD's. Then we take the Private playoff qualifiers and divide them into thirds. This Private committee then determines which 33% go into 8A, 7A, and 6A. For numbers not divisible by 3 the extra team(s) go into the larger class first.
Enrollment is perfectly fine in classifying public schools so no need to do away with that.
We create a committee of Private school coaches/AD's. Then we take the Private playoff qualifiers and divide them into thirds. This Private committee then determines which 33% go into 8A, 7A, and 6A. For numbers not divisible by 3 the extra team(s) go into the larger class first.
My solution. Get rid of the waiver. Consistently apply the 1.65x multiplier to all private/charters/parochial whatever term you wanna use consistently and go 1-32.
Totally disagree. You have to set a culture and kids still need to follow and believe. Not any coach can win a state title.
If they do that the Private schools should leave the IHSA & the split means no more playing each other(Public vs Private) in any sport. They did that here in Tennessee although the Private schools haven’t left the TSSAA yet but what you have is you’ll get these public schools (who cried about the private schools) winning state & saying oh we could have beat the private state champs
Ya, but he left the starters in the whole game. Methinks there might have been some senior backups who could’ve gotten a few snaps to end their career. MS has been guilty of this up until 5-6 yrs ago. Really pisses me off
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