LWE vs ESL who is number one?

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  1. SOUTHSIDECFD

    SOUTHSIDECFD Well-Known Member
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    In case anyone asks CALPREPS.COM projects this morning:
    LWE 21 ESL 19

    For civil discussion purposes!

    Is Calpreps fair and balanced?

    Would you agree with this outcome?
     
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    Oh Lord!!!!

    For the sake of upload/download bitrates, data packages, and the entire internet, Please stop!!!!! It’s just not worth it!!

    As a loyal Flyer Fan, for the sake of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, I wholeheartedly agree with this outcome!!!!
     
  4. CCLGUY1964

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    I have no dog in this fight. While I agree on the outcome I think it's a higher scoring game. Close but penalties and turnover decide the game.
     
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    Based on the four games I saw on Saturday, nobody would have defeated MC. They were the best team I saw that day.
     
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    ESL #19 USA Today. Great year for the Flyers. On to 2020.
     
  7. Kevin JCHS 81

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    (Tie)
    #1 LWE
    #1 MC
    #3 ESL
     
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  8. LWeastDad

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    Just love all the CCL fans trying to justify MC being #1.

    Fact of the matter is you wouldn't have beaten either LWE or Warren.
     
  9. dweise

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    MC could definitely beat Warren. "Fact of the matter". Give me a break.
     
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    What information do people have to say a team that didn't lose a game this year will now lose? No one can guarantee victory for any of the undefeated teams, LWE, MC and ESL. It is what it is and they are all STATE CHAMPS. No need to disrespect other teams to prove a point.
     
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    I voted MC #1 the entire year & thought LWE or ESL was #2 in every poll we've had during this season. So LWE actually moved up a little after Saturday.
     
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    USA Today is garbage
     
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    Simply not true! The two state title games were played in similar conditions and based on the offense productions alone, MC would win against either LWE and Warren! Defensively MC dominated the Naz offense that either LWE and Warren would have corralled but not without much more difficulty. I really liked both LWE and Warren and prior to the game Saturday would have considered them for the top team. Neither team would have stopped MC's offense on Saturday!
     
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    This debate reminds of 2015 when then 7A champ Glenbard West had a very nice undefeated season and thought they could of beaten our 8A champion Ramblers. There was nothing for us to say, but had a nice chuckle over the thought. I'm sure LWE feels the same way.
     
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    Your opinion.

    They are the owners of the official "National Champions" so I can go with that for now.
     
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    1130 CST update calpreps:
    ESL 31 LWE 27

    ESL 31 MC 24

    LWE 21 MC 17

    For the southsiders:
    MC 21 SR 19
    MC 28 BR 12
    MC 24 Marist 14

    Naz 28 SR 26
    Naz 31 Marist 26
    Naz 31 BR 17

    SR 24 Marist 21
    SR 27 BR 17

    Marist 20 BR 17

    I know computer programs are only as good as the info going in. Don't get crazy over this.

    Someone else run the CCL/ESCC...
     
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  19. flyerforlife

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    This right here enough said.
     
  20. StopFakeNews

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    Calpreps said Naz was going to beat MC.....
     
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    They didn't play on a neutral field sir!
     
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    Yet they played on the NV campus.
     
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    Calpreps only does neutral field. Take it or leave it. Also I noticed someone stopped pumping maxpreps now that they put LWE at #1. You ESL guys are being too transparent.
     
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    Oh well, I tried!!! :(:(:(o_Oo_Oo_O
     
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    And here I thought you were going to enter the footer:

    Masters of the known Universe!!!

    By the way the 89 team was NOT the national champs. Top ten absolutely.
     
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    27 LWeastDad, Dec 2, 2019 at 12:32 PM
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  28. Gene K.

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    Where is feeto? Does he get his upsets from Calpreps using scientific analysis to come up with his upset specials every Friday? Calpreps is a tool often right in the outcome and definitely wrong in many cases. Stand by my own internal analysis that MC is the #1 team in the State. To add fuel to the fire, I think ESL would have done better against LWE than Warren given that their offense is a hell of a lot better.
     
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    IMO the #19 team in the county does not go into a 6A championship game tied at halftime.
     
  30. LWeastDad

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    But their defense is a hell of a lot worse.
     
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    Looking for confirmation from clowns will always create a circus! LOL
     
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    Couldn't stop the dive against PR. Couldn't stop the pass against NV. People are too impressed by offers and not impressed enough by good football.
     
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    Great opinion however it doesn't matter.
     
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    MC has never lost to LWE and hasn't lost to ESL since 1987.

    Therefore MC is #1.
     
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    JCA has never lost to either, so.....
     
  36. crusader_of_90

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    They've never been in my kitchen either.
     
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  37. LWeastDad

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    Really? This is what you’re going with???
     
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    Montini 3-0 v. ESL, 0-1 v. LWE

    Can we take the 3rd spot?
     
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    Interesting how everyone is on here taking shots at OTHER teams in order to try and make THEIR team look better. Except for the Flyers..........
    The numbers speak for themselves!
     
    39 TigerforFlyers, Dec 2, 2019 at 1:25 PM
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    Using stats from the IHSA website, here is a comparison of how the winning teams in the 3 biggest classes performed in the title game relative to their opponent's season averages over 13 games in: passing yards, rushing yards and scoring:
    • LWE/WARREN: (16% of passing, 11% of rushing, 35 fewer points)
    • MC/NAZ: (54% of passing, 13% of rushing, 25.4 fewer points)
    • ESL/PR: (182% of passing, 111% of rushing, 27 fewer points).
    Yes, "figures lie and liars figure," so the forum readership can spin these toward their own narrative.
     

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