Loyola @ York
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Elmhurst going to be rocking with both York & IC hosting semifinal games
Seems from posts from York side they were mistake prone or shooting themselves in the foot early last week? They’ve been steady all yr so I was surprised to read that, but didn’t see the game.
I like this game’s matchup actually. York’s D is it’s strength and I think you need a top D to try and beat Loyola. I expect Loyola will try to pass against York if the run gets stuffed in Q1 which i think can happen. Should create opportunities for turnovers if York can capitalize with a big sack or INT. I said Yorks D is their strength, well so is their QB so I think York can score, can they score enough? Loyola is an animal of a program and they’ve been in this stage of the playoffs for a while.
Loyola 28
York 27
I like this game’s matchup actually. York’s D is it’s strength and I think you need a top D to try and beat Loyola. I expect Loyola will try to pass against York if the run gets stuffed in Q1 which i think can happen. Should create opportunities for turnovers if York can capitalize with a big sack or INT. I said Yorks D is their strength, well so is their QB so I think York can score, can they score enough? Loyola is an animal of a program and they’ve been in this stage of the playoffs for a while.
Loyola 28
York 27
York was inside Palatine’s 20 twice before half and was stalled by penalties. 1st drive after the half the qb fumbled at Palatine’s 3 yard line. Hopefully they got their “bad” playoff game out of their system. They could have blown Palatine out. Their D will keep them in the game vs. Loyola. We’ll have to see how much they can score. QB has a real knack for getting 1st downs on 3rd and long.
both team beat common opponent LT by 13,
LA beat Marist by 11, York beat by 6 (in crazy game)
York has home field
LA has the experience (prior playoffs, national TV exposure on ESPN) and great coaching
LA RB1 and RB2 out and many on crutches, but RB3 playing well
LA has natl ranked kicker
York health depth?
weather snow(?) and 32 degrees high will play a factor
turnovers critical
tight game, winner needs this level of opponent for title game experience
hope all stay healthy (LA 3rd 4th string RBs especially)
LA 31-28
LA beat Marist by 11, York beat by 6 (in crazy game)
York has home field
LA has the experience (prior playoffs, national TV exposure on ESPN) and great coaching
LA RB1 and RB2 out and many on crutches, but RB3 playing well
LA has natl ranked kicker
York health depth?
weather snow(?) and 32 degrees high will play a factor
turnovers critical
tight game, winner needs this level of opponent for title game experience
hope all stay healthy (LA 3rd 4th string RBs especially)
LA 31-28
Tight game. Injuries are mounting for LA but LA is solid everywhere. I am saying 24-21 LA. Their big time kicker finds a way to make a field goal late.
interesting game will come down to execution.
I personally like York due to
1) being at home
2) being a bit healthier
3) matchups (their strength WRs matches up well against Loyola's weakness (CB)
I can see the game going 2 ways. York winning in a shootout or Loyola winning a grind it out 13-10 kinda game.
I personally like York due to
1) being at home
2) being a bit healthier
3) matchups (their strength WRs matches up well against Loyola's weakness (CB)
I can see the game going 2 ways. York winning in a shootout or Loyola winning a grind it out 13-10 kinda game.
Loyola always finds a way to screw it up, but I don't know if York has enough to pull it out.
Loyola by 3.
Loyola by 3.
Loyola has been the model of consistency in recent years. From 2009 through last year, twelve 8A playoffs have taken place. Loyola reached the semifinals in ten of those twelve years. It truly is an excellent program.
However, this is where things have started getting dicey for them. In their ten semifinal appearances they have a record of 6-4. That is good, but not dominant. I would make them a 3-point favorite over York.
In their six championship game appearances over that time span, they have a 2-4 record. Their two championship game victories came against fellow Catholic League teams Marist and Brother Rice, whereas all four of their championship game losses came against public high schools (Bolingbrook, Naperville Central, Maine South and Lincoln-Way East).
Loyola always shows up and plays hard, but their combined 8-8 record (semifinals + finals) suggests it will be a throw of the dice from here on in.
However, this is where things have started getting dicey for them. In their ten semifinal appearances they have a record of 6-4. That is good, but not dominant. I would make them a 3-point favorite over York.
In their six championship game appearances over that time span, they have a 2-4 record. Their two championship game victories came against fellow Catholic League teams Marist and Brother Rice, whereas all four of their championship game losses came against public high schools (Bolingbrook, Naperville Central, Maine South and Lincoln-Way East).
Loyola always shows up and plays hard, but their combined 8-8 record (semifinals + finals) suggests it will be a throw of the dice from here on in.
I agree, I think the LWE/GW has more of a possibility of a shootout or a blowout. High temp 24, though it should be dry. The York kids should know that mental toughness is essential to success. Unless they've painted the locker room in the last 30 years, in which case they may not.
Winning 60% of semifinal games at the highest level seems like a slight outperform since I doubt they were more than 55% favorite over those ten games. They definitely weren’t more than a 60% favorite over that sample.
Winning two finals seems like a small under perform since I‘d say they were a bit more than a 50% favorite over those games. Off the top of my head, I think they were big favorites over Marist (win), a slight favorite over Maine South (loss) and Naperville Central (loss), toss up against Bollingbrook (loss), slight underdog against BR (win), and big underdog against LWE (loss).
LA has veteran QB and a greater array of offensive weapons than last year. LA scores a bunch early and hangs on. Let's say 31-24. (And are we really picking on LA for only being 8-8 across semis & finals over last 12 years? This is 8A, people. Come on now.)
Yes. Only because they have 275 kids in helmets and the most talent in the State in 8A (unless Mt. Carmel goes 8A in a given year), as is evidenced by winning the toughest conference every year (or other year).
Elmhurst going to be rocking with 2 playoff games there Saturday.1 mile from each other
I'm grateful that BR made it to the semis 3 years in a row. 10 out of 12 is insane.
York is a great story led by a fantastic HC. Plenty of talent in Elmhurst. But……
…..Hollywood is Hollywood.
34-20 LA.
…..Hollywood is Hollywood.
34-20 LA.
I pick York only because Loyola always screws up in the state semi's.
The Loyola Football Facebook page is reporting that the game will be broadcast on the York Sports Network You Tube channel. Thank you York!!!
They've also screwed up in the finals.
Those kids do a GREAT job. One of the best student run broadcasts out there, IMO.
I’ve watched a few of those. My favorite moment was when one of them commented that their fast tailback (Watson?) had too lateral of a running style and should just be turning upfield (which is true). There was some silence, some whispering, some rustling, and then the kid goes, I mean, he’s a better running back than me, I’m just saying…
According to the Friday Night Lights podcast, Glenbard West has the largest OLine in 8A this year. Both the York QB and LA QB were named to the 8A All-State Team today.
These will not be easy wins for any team.
I think York D has seen a pretty good QB already… every single practice. The D also had the Wisconsin bound OL Tarek in fits in the matchup against GBW.
I don’t know what Loyola games you and Wassup have been watching that they screwed up, but seems to me they are in the semis or the finals about three out of every four years.
Personally I’m cheering for York, but I would never bet against Loyola.
Why would LA and LWE winning easy indicate that 8A is down? They win easily most of the time.
It’s missing a few programs like Barrington, HF, NC, Stevenson, Bolingbrook, and few others not being competitive even in the early rounds. Even Maine South and Palatine looked underwhelming all year compared to past qtr final teams of those programs. It’s LWE and LA and then everyone else more than ever but I hope I’m wrong.
Referring to a combo of both on the level of QB and Oline LA has. My girl tells me size doesn’t matter.. On that I know she’s wrong and i hope I’m wrong and these are close games. I want York to win it all trust me.
York home atmosphere is definitely an advantage for the Dukes, but the sheer size and multitude of weapons for Loyola give them an advantage on the field. York has had a great season, and I will go back to my point of a VERY good public school is going to have their hands full with an all star Loyola team
Seeing GBW v York meet in Champaign is my hope. Considering your name is WSC Foothall Fan, who do you think would win that hypothetical matchup?
Check out how many state titles the largest enrollment private school team in IL has right now.
Loyola is a excellent regular season team but it does not translate to many state titles.
If a team is a 70% favorite in every playoff game, they would be expected to win five in a row 16% of the time or win 1 out of every 6 years. LA has been on this run for 12 years now and has won 2 state titles.
If you say they are 100% favorite in round one, 80% in round two and reduce the odds by 10% each subsequent round which seems aggressive but in range, you again end up with them being expected to win about once every six years.
It’s hard to win five in a row against increasingly difficult competition even for the very best teams.
If you say they are 100% favorite in round one, 80% in round two and reduce the odds by 10% each subsequent round which seems aggressive but in range, you again end up with them being expected to win about once every six years.
It’s hard to win five in a row against increasingly difficult competition even for the very best teams.
I would say LA had 100% this year in round one, 90% round two and 80% in round three. This year is similar to most where only the semifinals and final are threats to them.
Maybe this year but I’m taking about a 12 year sample.
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