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Discussion in 'Edgy's Lost His Mind Free Football Board' started by Cross Bones, Sep 14, 2019.
The question is simple, after 3 weeks who is the best
That will be hard to pick. The reason is top teams do not play each other. We can sit here and say who we think is the top but none of that matters unless they play. Then and only then would there be a legitimate claim.
I think the list is incomplete, and clearly NV is 2nd at best, but if you are a fan of one of these teams, you don't want to see any of the other six teams until late November...the later the better. At the same time, these teams shouldn't be afraid of each other. They all have their strengths and weaknesses.
The only thing I'm sure of is that Alabama could beat all of them...lol.
Hard to say. If you want to go by best win you’d have to include The Brook in your poll.
Talk to me in 11 weeks.
I had a tough time between picking Eastside, Loyola or Lincoln Way East.
Agree with you Newt.
I think a lot of the top teams do in-fact play each other. Often times they are in conferences with each other AND seek each other out in non-conference games. For example Glenbard W and Maine S play each other. Maine S and Mt. Carmel play. ESL and Batavia play. Etc.
Who am I missing? Also, is it clear that NV is 2nd at best? Can a lesser team never spring an upset? If two equal teams play does it mean they will tie? When a team loses on not getting a 2pt conversion at the end of the game against arguably the best team I leave them in the conversation for the best team, but I am not always right.
There is a very good chance in 11 weeks there still will not be a consensus.
I might remove NV and add HF. But I've been reading the EST vs NV thread and am apprehensive to say much more out of fear of driving your thread into a ditch, too.
In sports and really anything that comes down to a single elimination format, the best team doesn't always win a title. I enjoy these discussions before state title weekend because if you're just going off of pure talent, you can have arguments and cases made during the regular season. I think flyers or lwe are best right now overall.
Why is it so important to be the best team in the state or best player in the state? Neither can be proven.
It's just one of the things that gets discussed in sport. Did you vote?
It's hypothetical and just for fun.
Not yet, I need at least three more weeks.
Poll closes on Thursday. I'm sure there will be another at some point in the year. We have a Civic duty
Well just for fun I vote IC . Defending champion still unbeaten
After playing MC and GW I don’t think they are #1. Both will be tough to beat in the playoffs though. GW offense is loaded with backs but I worry if they have to pass. Their defense should live up to the Hitter standard.
MC also has weapons. They have very good speed and a great kicker. Come playoff time the offense should be better. I picked Eastside. Besides being a fan I think that they are really loaded with talent and Sunkett will keep them hungry. All gas no brakes!
Now if I had to choose from list it would either be MC or ESL purely based on strength of schedule. LWE schedule is not as strong. I cannot leave out NV
I voted ESL. I can’t vote for anyone else as I have not seen them live or online.
As shocked and saddened as I was when I didn't see Peotone on the list, I went with LA. Taking the champs until they're not.
GW has to prove it in the 8A playoffs. They have been run off their home field the last 3 years.
I voted for East Side.
Who after three weeks has better wins across the board?
Remember this criteria come playoff time. The best win being a 2pt conversion goalline stand against NV likely will come back to bite lol
Everyone forgets "off the bus" factor - but OK. Who has the better resume so far?
That conversion would have tied the game up, not win it.
Let me know when you figure that out. Meanwhile I’ll enjoy my Trojans.
Vote early, vote often
Imagine being NV - they hang with Apollo Creed for 15 rounds and were proud as hell and happy after the game - deservedly - only to learn their opponent is mediocre. After the fact.
I would say it's arguable. I think NC beats Batavia. NV was a TD better than Stevie. I'll give you Trinity over Bradley. LWE has been decisive in each win though. But I'll even grant you ESL's stronger schedule through 3 weeks. What I'm saying is remember the resume argument in week 14.
Yes, I was there. And was thoroughly entertained even though I'm a defense guy. But the closeness of the game puts us in a precarious situation given all the hyperbole surrounding the Flyers this early season. Either NV is also other worldly or ESL isn't (or some combination of the two). No one was calling NV a top team in the state with a 7 point win over Stevie nor the 17 point win over GBN.
I just keep it consistent.
ESL has a strong team, always has but how good is Nequa Valley to put up 48 on their defense?
NV played tough against a top tier team and earned the positive recognition it's receiving. ESL was uncertain about the outcome of the game until after the last play of the game, by an above average team, and therefore earned the questions they're receiving. On to week 4.
I actually agree with you so don't take it the wrong way. I am also saying NV may be a lot better than people think. Time will tell. I am also stating in the world of turf fields, grass fields after a day of rain with a huge crown is definitely a home field advantage.
Should ESL be questioned as the number 1 team, absolutely. Anytime you play a close game that comes with the territory. I do not agree that NC will beat Batavia and neither would Stevenson from what I seen on film. Besides all of that, there aren’t too many teams that will travel 5 hours twice in three weeks and beat those teams on their home openers and senior night! It’s real easy to talk about what a team can do without travel. What is LWE record traveling down to the Metro East? I witnessed the Ofallon game but I can’t remember the Eville game.
Not sure that its valid to compare different years.
LWE beat Edwardsville in 2010 and 2018, Belleville West in 2016 , lost at Edwardsville in 2013 and to o'Fallon in 2009..
Did Bones and Jwar conspire to give NV 2 votes?
Only speaking on results after traveling 5 hours. I believe LWE is 0-2 when traveling to Southern Illinois and 3-0 when at home or two hours away. Point is traveling has an effect.
ESL vs LWE week 2 in the city of champions classic. You talk to your people I call my people (ESL) we make it happen. LBVS
I’ll buy $100 worth of snoots to bring to the tailgate party for that!
I'm sure there are teams that will be in the discussion come November that aren't even on the list currently.
Yep. WWS is quietly being the original WWS.